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robbiedaug New Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:21 am Post subject: Cubasis VST ver 1.0 R1 (update?) |
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Hi,
My old computer had to be replaced and i now have a new pc. The new pc is incompatible with the cubasis VST Ver 1.0 that i bought in 2001. Is there a update or something i could get to make it work with the new pc?
I still have the original cd, user's manual, and box for the cubasis VST ver 1.0
Thanks,
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robbiedaug New Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:52 am Post subject: Post subject: Cubasis VST ver 1.0 R1 (update?) |
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Did i ask a doozy of a question or something? |
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Georg Bruns Administrative Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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No, but there are not much users around who are remembring anything about Cubasis VST 1.
Sorry, there are no updates available. If you are going to buy an audio interface for your new PC see if it comes with Cubase AI or LE. This would be the cheapest solution to get a good contemporary replacement for your Cubase version.
If you don't need or already have an audio interface you would have to get Cubase Essential 5. This is the entry level representative of the current Cubase family. _________________ www.steinberg.net |
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robbiedaug New Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:15 am Post subject: Thanks |
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Hi,
Thanks for the response. I will have to ask if i have the interface or not.
Too bad about no updates at all for a guy like me who bought the original software. I think it's a little unfair that there are no updates or "anything". I did say i have all the original packaging, CD and user's manual. I am pretty sure i still have the bill from where i bought the software, too.
So, i guess people have to purchase a new cubase every year or so?
You know, why would i think of updating a software that worked great and satisfied my limited needs for so many years?
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Georg Bruns Administrative Moderator
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:06 am Post subject: |
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| robbiedaug wrote: | The new pc is incompatible with the cubasis VST Ver 1.0 that i bought in 2001.
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So, i guess people have to purchase a new cubase every year or so?
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Obviously rather every decade in your case. Besides, other Cubase versions from that time still can be used on current computers. Incompatibility with future operating systems really is not a concept. It's just kind of bad luck that Cubasis VST doesn't run on your PC. I'm sorry for you but if you think about it it's not so unreasonable to grant your brand-new computer a Cubase version that has not been written in the last century. _________________ www.steinberg.net |
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robbiedaug New Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject: Yes. Let's quote each other's words. |
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Hi,
Thanks for responding.
Yes. Let's quote each other's words.
| Georg Bruns will quote what Robbiedaug wrote: | | Here's where Georg Bruns quoted what Robbiedaug wrote: | The new pc is incompatible with the cubasis VST Ver 1.0 that i bought in 2001.
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So, i guess people have to purchase a new cubase every year or so?
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| Then Georg Bruns responded to what Robbiedaug wrote: | | Obviously rather every decade in your case. Besides, other Cubase versions from that time still can be used on current computers. Incompatibility with future operating systems really is not a concept. It's just kind of bad luck that Cubasis VST doesn't run on your PC. I'm sorry for you but if you think about it it's not so unreasonable to grant your brand-new computer a Cubase version that has not been written in the last century. |
| Georg Bruns wrote: | | Obviously rather every decade in your case. |
And is anything wrong with a client finding the right program to do what he needs it to do? I discovered Cubasis VST to be it. Not my fault that Steinberg released a software when i bought it, like 9 years ago, if not even released on the market earlier than that, and i happened to buy the version 1.
I think that Steinberg, you know, might have thought of creating an update or, at least something, to keep an older version working, even with a new pc. I am the client here - not my old pc that needed to be replaced because it "died". I paid for the program. I am happy with what i have. I've gotten used to that version. Why would i even think about getting an update that might change the version which i liked, and was used to working with. How long was it supposed to function for if "other Cubase versions from that time still can be used on current computers"?
I, somehow, feel like i am dealing with an insurance company that is trying not to pay out.
| Georg Bruns wrote: | | Besides, other Cubase versions from that time still can be used on current computers. |
Oh ok. So then, what happens when a particular Steinberg version no longer works on a "current computer" - like in my case?
For example, let's say a client who had purchased, the Cubasis VST ver 1.0 software with money, and used it happily for about 10 years, suddenly discovers when he gets a new computer, that the version he's been using for approximately 10 years no longer works - and only because he had to buy a new pc.
Was the Cubasis VST ver 1 an inferior Steinberg software, compared to other Cubase versions from that time that still can be used on current computers?
| Georg Bruns wrote: | | Incompatibility with future operating systems really is not a concept. |
Does Steinberg offer updates for current versions, to keep their clients updated, when updates are needed?
If yes, then it is "a concept".
If no, then it appears to anyone reading this, that Steinberg does not consider the future. Seems to be something like, Buy it now! Use it now! Enjoy it now! We're the best!
But what seems not to be said is, Use it for as long as your computer lasts. and that when your future computer system no longer runs the older Steinberg software that you bought with your money...that's when Steinberg will maybe tell you something like,
...It's just kind of bad luck that Cubasis VST doesn't run on your PC.
Personally, i couldn't imagine why a big company like, Steinberg, would say that to a paying client.
| Georg Bruns wrote: | | It's just kind of bad luck that Cubasis VST doesn't run on your PC. |
You mean, it's bad luck for me to have spent my money on Steinberg's Cubase VST ver 1?
And yes, this is a question. I know it's my bad luck that my pc died.
(Wonders to self if it was the Steinberg software that somehow malfunctioned and caused my old pc to die.)
| Georg Bruns wrote: | | I'm sorry for you... |
No, i am sorry to see your words because it sure doesn't sound like you are sorry. Is there ANYONE at Steinberg who cares about what i am writing here?
For this next quote, i must admit that i am not really sure what you mean. So, i will quote your original line, and i will respond to what you've written, accordingly. Then, i will requote the same line and add a few words to it, and you can tell me which one is correct.
| Georg Bruns wrote: | | ...but if you think about it it's not so unreasonable to grant your brand-new computer a Cubase version that has not been written in the last century. |
Sarcasm about "the last century" has been noted because it was one "century" ago, when i bought a Cubasis VST ver 1.0 from Steinberg, and Steinberg, at that time, was a "century" younger. Fortunately, we are both still around.
Now, here's what i hope you had meant to say in that last line, | Georg Bruns, with Robbiedaug's help, wrote: | ...but if you think about it it's not so unreasonable for Steinberg to grant your brand-new computer a brand-new Cubase version, one that has not been written in the last century, just because you are such a loyal client who, in fact, does have the original CD, user's manual, and even the original box. |
I really like the second one much better. That one, makes MUCH MORE sense than the first one.
Thanks for reading this.
Robbie
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maxhowarth Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:13 am Post subject: |
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i think georg is being entirely reasonable. i can't think of a single application i bought in 2001 that will still run on the most recent macs in the building.
we have paris software (bought in 1999 i think) that we keep around because we have some very old work that occasionally needs to be restored but we have an old mac that we maintain running mac os 9.2 specifically for that purpose. maybe you could do the same? _________________ best wishes
max
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robbiedaug New Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:39 pm Post subject: Cubasis VST ver 1.0 R1 (update?) |
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Hi,
Well, bully for you, Max. I hope all that works out for you.
However, in this case, in which i am contacting Steinberg, not you, i think i am being very reasonable.
By the way, i have a friend who uses a 1999 version of Cakewalk and he tells me it's compatable with new pc's or old pc's.
So max, with all due respect to you, if it's all the same to you, i am not here to learn what you or other "members' think as to who is being reasonable in my situation.
Imagine i am in a Steinberg store talking to a salesman about my situation, and then you, another client, walk up and stand in between the rep and myself, and start defending the snooty sales rep by saying what you just said to me. In "real life", i would be politely telling you to mind your own frikken business.
So, thanks for telling us all what you do, but it does not apply to this topic of me asking for an update.
And Max, i sincerely hope that you don't start arguing your point and getting defensive by adding snooty and agrumentive posts to this thread to transform this thread into a "who can spit the farthest" contest. You've said your piece, and i say "bully for you - Good Show", laddy. However, i did not write all that i wrote to have some "non-affliated to Steinberg" person start answering for Steinberg.
You have an opinion and that's great, it's a free world for opinions, you offered your opinion, and i noticed it. Does it help my situation?... not one bit.
So, by me asking Steinberg about my Cubasis VST problem and then you answering by talking about OTHER recording softwares, doesn't say much for Steinberg. Let Steinberg handle Steinberg's affairs.
Have a great day, Max.
Thanks,
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Georg Bruns Administrative Moderator
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Well, I have to correct this statement: "Besides, other Cubase versions from that time still can be used on current computers." In fact, it is highly unlikely that any Cubase version that has been released at the time of Cubasis VST 1 is still running on Windows 7 or even Vista. I didn't think enough about how old Cubasis VST 1 really is. And I really didn't want to imply that Cubasis VST is not compatible with current systems because it is "inferior Steinberg software". It simply is incompatible because it is very very old!
I don't remember when Cubasis VST 1 has been released and I guess no one else does. There were many Cubasis VST updates available since then. The Cubasis product line made it up to version 5 (!). This final version has been many ceased years ago. That's the version I was referring to - sorry for the confusion! BTW the successor of Cubasis, Cubase Essential, also was available as an update for Cubasis VST users for several years.
I took your concern seriously. That's why I've answered your questions. And because I think it is generally good to stay with the software and the machine that fit your needs I feel sorry for you! But I can only confirm the unpleasant and sort of trivial fact that Cubasis VST 1 is not running on the contemporary machine by which your old computer has been replaced. _________________ www.steinberg.net |
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robbiedaug New Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:29 pm Post subject: Cubasis VST ver 1.0 R1 (update?) |
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Hi,
It says on the box, WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF PROFESSIONAL MUSIC RECORDING.
By the way, on the back of the box in which the software and the user manual came in, it says,"Steinberg Soft-und Hardware GmbH 1999"
So, i suppose if people buy a Steinberg Cubase software today and like it, and get used to it, and use that for a number of years, until Microsoft creates a new version of Windows, they will have to buy another Steinberg Cubase to work on the new system?
That's what i'm reading in your posts, Georg.
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maxhowarth Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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nice attitude. if you don't want me, or any other user, to comment on your situation, don't post it in a public user forum. _________________ best wishes
max
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2 x 3.3 6core mac pro | 12gb ram | mac os 10.6.4 | n5.0 | rme multiset/audiolink96 | 3 x 19" flat panels | decklink xt | waves7 | altiverb6 | mc mix |
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robbiedaug New Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: Cubasis VST ver 1.0 R1 (update?) |
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| robbiedaug wrote: | Hi,
It says on the box, WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF PROFESSIONAL MUSIC RECORDING.
By the way, on the back of the box in which the software and the user manual came in, it says,"Steinberg Soft-und Hardware GmbH 1999"
So, i suppose if people buy a Steinberg Cubase software today and like it, and get used to it, and use that for a number of years, until Microsoft creates a new version of Windows, they will have to buy another Steinberg Cubase to work on the new system?
That's what i'm reading in your posts, Georg.
Robbie |
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Georg Bruns Administrative Moderator
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Robbie, I'm afraid there's nothing left I could add to my explication. The facts are not that complicated that I could make more words about it. I only can summarize what I've already written: Your Steinberg software is more than 10 years old, it has been developed for Windows 98, probably even for Windows 95. Steinberg's support cannot provide a solution if Cubasis VST 1 cannot be installed or does not run on your new Windows Vista or 7 machine. Support for this Cubasis version has been ceased many years ago. There's no update available for Cubasis VST 1. If there is any knack to make it work on your machine it is not known to me or other supporters. Obviously even in this section of cubase.net there are no other Cubasis VST 1 users left that could share their experience. That's why I suggest to switch to a current Cubase version - or another piece of software that has been developed to run on current operating systems. I already shown how to get a contemporary Cubase release for little money. _________________ www.steinberg.net |
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robbiedaug New Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:40 am Post subject: (update?) NONE AVAILABLE!! Buy another software. |
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Hi,
Thank you, Georg.
When i buy another recording software, it certainly won't be from Steinberg, and i will be sure to tell any one i know to do the same thing. Steinberg cares for Steinberg. Of course, IT'S A BUSINESS.
Watch for a youtube video soon. Who cares, right? Certainly not Steinberg.
Tchüss
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Georg Bruns Administrative Moderator
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Of course, you are right, it's a business. Steinberg produces high quality software that is professional yet affordable. And Steinberg doesn't have to feel ashamed of charging for its products. The price-performance ratio of Cubase is excellent, you won't get more pro audio software for your money anywhere else. But Cubase doesn't come with a lifetime compatibility that includes all future operating systems. It can happen that you run into compatibility issues 10 years and about 4 Windows versions later. I wonder why you don't blame Microsoft since they've sold you a Windows version that does not allow you to run software that did well on Windows 95/98. Anyway, I honestly wish you Good Luck, what ever your choice will be! _________________ www.steinberg.net |
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