Cubase 6

zephonic · Member Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 146

http://www.cubase6.co.uk/

pre-release blog. Word is they'll announce it at NAMM.

Although a new Cubase is always good news, I really hope that Steinberg is going to give loyal customers a break.

I paid 850 euro for C4 in '07 and another 200 this year to upgrade to C5. If I'm gonna have to fork out yet another 200 to upgrade to C6 I will have spent 1250 euro on a program that is 500 or 600 retail. Yikes.

And did I mention buying Cubase VST 3.7 back in the day? Sorry, can not be upgraded to C4 so please buy the full version again.

curteye · Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:18 pm Post subject:

Why not just keep using what you have now and do not buy a newer version of Cubase?

No $$$$ probs that way and it is the 'devil you know'.

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playz123 · Member Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 693

Re. "I will have spent 1250 euro on a program that is 500 or 600 retail."
Actually you spent that sum on software that you also used for the last three years. Useage can't be factored out when one assesses what spending a certain amount entitled them to do over the years. And others, who have upgraded since Cubase first came into existence, could, based on your concept, claim even higher amounts. Smile

Anyway, no requirement to rush into upgrading to C6 if you feel you've already spent as much as you are going to spend. However, I'm guessing the next upgrade will indeed be around $200, and that many current C5 users will choose to proceed.

Thanks for posting the link.
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Chris Beuermann · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:15 am Post subject:

Hello,

that blog is only a collection of "nothing". They could copy and paste the forums and post it there regarding Cubase 6. We could charge them, because they are using Steinberg "material" without asking us for permission.....

Gr,

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st@g · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:02 pm Post subject:

Julian Assenge work for sure.
Joking aside: You could very well prosecute them for harassment also.
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Chris Beuermann · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:13 pm Post subject:

leedsquietman · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:51 pm Post subject:

Every software which is updated has an upgrade charge - if you were a Logic or Protools user, this would be the same, with similarly priced upgrades.

Cakewalk and Ableton, for a long period of time, had ANNUAL upgrades which were not much cheaper, at least Cubase only upgrades every 2 to 2 1/2 years on average.

I owned Cubase on the Atari ST. I did not buy it again until VST 5, and then SX (1), SX3 and now C5, making it an expenditure happening every 3-4 years for cost reasons. People are correct that nothing forces you to buy the next version, some people are still running very old versions and happy.
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ZapAxe · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:19 pm Post subject:

Steinberg isn't going to GIVE away software...and it's more than just about refining their product to make it better and better (which definitely is) but it's also mainly about profits and more profits.

I spent a lot of money on the Producers Pack (VST 32 & WaveLab 3) it's lasted me about 10 years without upgrading/spending more money. I had my 246 Tascam 4 track for well over 15 years before that. I'll be upgrading and using SX3 for about nothing and leave VST behind. Someday when Cubase 5, or even Cubase 6 is old and worth a bucket of dirt I'll be upgrading to that...which really won't be all that long. When Cubase 6 comes out, Cubase 5 will still have some value. I don't have such expendable income that I can continually plunk down in upgrades, nor do I have the time and patience to keep learning something new when all I want to do is get my songs recorded in my spare time.

I will not spend a fortune on music software anymore, but instead wait til it's old/yesterdays news. If you're used to and happy with a horse and buggy, upgrading to a model T is light years ahead, and VST is far from a horse and buggy. I recently saw someone selling SX3 on ebay and they wanted like $300...INSANE they are not going to get it, it's worth next to nothing and that's what it can be had for....prolly as well as the next version.

So you all spend your money on Cubase 6, I'll be saving mine Smile

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HowlingUlf · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:53 pm Post subject:

Add the cost of all versions and all updates or whatever you have and divide it by the number of months you have used them.
Some are already making a little or a lot of money, some plan to. Some can compare the costs to some other hobby.
It's not THAT expensive, is it?
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leedsquietman · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:57 pm Post subject:

SX3 is still worth about $150 dollars + transfer fee = about $170, if you are paying the upgrade to C5, which is another $199, meaning you effective got C5 for about $370, which is $120 less than the current retail price. Anything more than $200 is someone living in fantasy land, although there could be some mug out there willing to drop for it at that price. If you're not bothered about the extra features in C5, then $150 + trans fee is the most you should consider paying - and remember, if you are running Vista or win 7, SX3 is not officially supported (or snow leopard on mac). It will probably still work, but if something gets fecked then you have no tech support entitlement.

Anyone asking $300 for SX3 is living in cloud cuckoo land - with the upgrade cost to C5, than puts it at the same as buying a new copy of C5 $499, and this doesn't include the transfer fee.
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douglas hazelrigg · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:48 pm Post subject:

Here's what I'd like to see: the ability to download older versions of Cubase from the Steinberg store for a reasonable fee. Obviously, this doesn't mean Steinberg will actively support these older versions. But this way a lot of people can get into Cubase at a better price point, people like Zap who want to upgrade, or other people who don't want to shell out $500 for the latest version. I know of one software company that does this, the folks that make TurboCAD, and you can buy various previous versions of TurboCAD for MUCH less than the latest version.

Does this make sense?
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curteye · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:46 am Post subject:

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leedsquietman · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:17 am Post subject:

There are significant restrictions there though, especially with Essentials - I mean, seriously, Reaper represents much better value for half the cost, in fact, Reaper pretty much holds up to the Cubase Studio version in most respects and even surpasses it in one or two areas.

If you could get the full Cubase 4 for a reasonable price, I would take that over Cubase Studio 5 at current RRP.
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HowlingUlf · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:00 pm Post subject:

patcub · Member Joined: 28 Jan 2010 Posts: 265

Well, I tried the demo version of Reaper and for the price of 60$ it's an amazing program, stable with great CPU performance, great routing functionalities, and it handles pretty well all the basics needed for music production. I'm not going to switch from Cubase but Reaper is great for the price IMHO.

In Reaper you have sidechain for your VST2 compressors, drag'n drop to 3rd party samplers, fully customizable interface, things that are not allowed to us lucky SB customers.

Besides, they have a nice customer support and they release lots of updates and bug corrections at an amazing path that ridiculizes Steinberg, Cakewalk or Apple.

Plus you get a discount on Stillwell plugins when you own Reaper. I mean you can almost get Reaper + 4 or 5 Stillwell plugins + NI Komplete 7 for the price of Cubase.
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