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headclouds Junior Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:32 am Post subject: Cubase 5 vs Cubase 4 CPU |
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I am running C4 and am running into a lot of audio dropout issues. I have the latest drivers and updates to my VST's (BFD 2, Korg, NI). Is there a CPU improvement from C4 to C5? I am barely running any plugins and keep having this issue. The most common plugins I am runnings r the BFD and the Korg. Money is an issue so I would like to know if it is worth paying the upgrade price if theres no CPU performance upgrade. _________________ Macbook Pro, 2.53 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB Ram 1067 Mhz DDR3, OS X 10.6.4, Apogee Duet, Behringer B-Control 2000. |
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maxhowarth Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:22 am Post subject: |
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c5 actually uses a little more cpu than 4.
what buffer setting are you running? _________________ best wishes
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Fitz Senior Member
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headclouds Junior Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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I'm trying all buffer setings. 512 is the one i have been using lately and I still get audio drops. I also turn off the vst's and that doesnt help either. I never had this issue with my desktop. I know my laptop isnt as powerful as my desktop but man... this is ridiculous. All I have to do is create a new project, import some audio tracks, throw in a couple of vsts synths and cpu overload. Im alwys using the same vsts: bfd 2, korg, and about 2 more synths, a max of 4 at a time. this sucks because I really cant afford to buy a desktop. I am running a fraction of what i ran on my desktop and I am constantly choking. _________________ Macbook Pro, 2.53 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB Ram 1067 Mhz DDR3, OS X 10.6.4, Apogee Duet, Behringer B-Control 2000. |
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Fitz Senior Member
Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 1442 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Open network interfaces and remove Bluetooth and Firewire interfaces. _________________ --
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Weasel Grand Senior Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 5038 Location: Bothell, WA
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | c5 actually uses a little more cpu than 4. |
But the trade-off is that it runs VST plug-ins more efficiently within the Snow Leopard environment...particularly regarding those requiring VST Bridge.
Korg and NI have updated all of their plugs which have improved their performance on SnowLeopard. I have no idea what state BFD is in. Are you running the latest 3rd party plug-in versions?
Is your Apogee driver up to date? Are you running any of your libraries off an external HD? All of these little tweaks make a difference in performance efficiency.
Because laptops don't have the same CPU headroom that desktops do, you may have to make some adjustments to improve playback. Freezing VSTi's usually improves things...particularly if you're still in the tracking stage. If you are mixing only, bumping your buffer over 512 as well as freezing things is going to help. _________________ Posted from The Cornfield™
QuadCore 2.66 Nehalem w/8gbRAM • OSX 10.6.5 • C5.5.2.637 • C4.5.2 • MOTU 424e/2804MkIII • PODxt • 2-MIDI Express 128's ••• DualCore 2.8 iMac w/4.0gbRAM • OSX 10.6.5 • C5.5.2.637 • C4.5.2 • MOTU/ULmk3 ••• D8B/V5.1 • GenX192. |
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headclouds Junior Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:10 am Post subject: |
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I have not frozen the tracks cuz I am still writing and rewriting but I have turned them off on the vst instrument page. dont know if that would have the same effect. I am running all latest plugin versions. Korg just released their update less than a month ago actually. Apogee has latest drivers too. I also tried deleting the network connections like the other guy suggested. nothing is being runoff external HD. From reading these comments maybe i should try updating to C5 first to see if that helps? maybe I should use the trial version first to see if there is any improvement. if not, then i may just have to buy an IMac... i need to play the lotto this week, _________________ Macbook Pro, 2.53 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB Ram 1067 Mhz DDR3, OS X 10.6.4, Apogee Duet, Behringer B-Control 2000. |
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headclouds Junior Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:30 am Post subject: |
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Lastest update is that nothing has gotten better. And I cant use the trial c5 because I downloaded it in Oct but didnt use it. So even though I didnt use it, I lost use of the activation code because it expired. And then support tells me that they wont give me another code because its only 1 code per dongle. That I need to buy a new elicense dongle just to get a new code to use the trial c5. And yes they can see my registration info which clearly shows that I never used it so its not a lie. Great customer support. _________________ Macbook Pro, 2.53 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB Ram 1067 Mhz DDR3, OS X 10.6.4, Apogee Duet, Behringer B-Control 2000. |
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Fitz Senior Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Did you remove the network interfaces as I suggested? _________________ --
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headclouds Junior Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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I did, same problem. Its frustrating when i see other musicians working with their laptops free of issues. thanks for your help anyways guys. I may just end up getting the imac. _________________ Macbook Pro, 2.53 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB Ram 1067 Mhz DDR3, OS X 10.6.4, Apogee Duet, Behringer B-Control 2000. |
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