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DocMa Member
Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 301 Location: Osnabrück, Germany
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:47 pm Post subject: Bug: Delay before moving parts doesn't work |
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Hi there,
I don't know, how it is correctly called in the english version, has something like "delay to move objects".
Simply: it doesn't work.
It's annoying when you edit really fast.
Can anybody confirm this?
Thanks, Matze! _________________ C5.5, C4.1.3LE, MOTU 24I/O, PCI-424e, UAD-1, UAD-1e, Native Komplete 5 + 6, BFD2, Intel DP35DP, Core 2 Duo E6750, 2x WD Raptor, 4GB Patriot RAM, WinXP Pro SP3
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FunkyDrummer Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2009 Posts: 121
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Yes it is called "drag delay" in editing preferences.
Simply enter a number here, and it will be totally ignored by cubase.
And it has never worked properly in C5 - it is too easy to accidentally move parts.... _________________ Cubase 5.52 / Win XP Pro SP3 (32bit, 3GB switch) / Intel Core i7 920 CPU (4 x 4.0 GHz) / ASUS P6TSE motherboard / 3GB memory @ 1603MHz / M-Audio 1010LT PCI / UAD-2 Quad / UAD-1 (PCI) |
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DocMa Member
Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 301 Location: Osnabrück, Germany
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, should be fixed.
I like Cubase but it could be so much better. So many little annoying things. I hope there will be a 5.51 with some fixes soon.
Cheers, Matze! _________________ C5.5, C4.1.3LE, MOTU 24I/O, PCI-424e, UAD-1, UAD-1e, Native Komplete 5 + 6, BFD2, Intel DP35DP, Core 2 Duo E6750, 2x WD Raptor, 4GB Patriot RAM, WinXP Pro SP3
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runeharpun Member
Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 246 Location: Norway
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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This was discussed back in 2009 (I notice you posted in that thread too, DocMa):
http://forum.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=123200
Frustrating to see these kind of bugs just keeps getting ignored.
R _________________ Cubase 5.5.2 | Asus P5Q deluxe |Q9550 CPU | 4GB ram | Win7 | TC Konnekt 48 | Dynaudio BM5a | 2xUAD-1 | 1xUAD2 solo |
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DocMa Member
Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 301 Location: Osnabrück, Germany
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, makes me a little sad.
This are the things I need more than new design stuff... _________________ C5.5, C4.1.3LE, MOTU 24I/O, PCI-424e, UAD-1, UAD-1e, Native Komplete 5 + 6, BFD2, Intel DP35DP, Core 2 Duo E6750, 2x WD Raptor, 4GB Patriot RAM, WinXP Pro SP3
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FunkyDrummer Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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If Steinberg built an aeroplane would you dare fly with them? They'd probably forget to test the steering. And brakes. And engines.
BUT it would be painted a very nice colour, and you could buy some great duty free. That's the most important thing.
Sorry, I know I'm off topic. _________________ Cubase 5.52 / Win XP Pro SP3 (32bit, 3GB switch) / Intel Core i7 920 CPU (4 x 4.0 GHz) / ASUS P6TSE motherboard / 3GB memory @ 1603MHz / M-Audio 1010LT PCI / UAD-2 Quad / UAD-1 (PCI) |
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Chris Beuermann Administrative Moderator
Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 6949 Location: Steinberg HQ, Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hello,
this function works as intended. When you drag the part "a long way" with the mouse, then the part will move obvious because Cubase sees it as a "drag". When we would increase this amount of "waiting time" then the parts start to jump when you want to move the part a little bit.
You could set the drag delay to 500 ms (max).
In Cubase 4 this behaviour is the same. In Cubase SX3 the behaviour was not consistent.
Gr,
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FunkyDrummer Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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It depends how you test it!
If the mouse is NOT MOVING when the button is pressed, then you SLOWLY move the mouse, you see the delay taking place before the part moves.
But if you move the pointer quickly, you can drag the part with no delay!
Or if the pointer is in motion when the button is pressed, there is also no delay! _________________ Cubase 5.52 / Win XP Pro SP3 (32bit, 3GB switch) / Intel Core i7 920 CPU (4 x 4.0 GHz) / ASUS P6TSE motherboard / 3GB memory @ 1603MHz / M-Audio 1010LT PCI / UAD-2 Quad / UAD-1 (PCI) |
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runeharpun Member
Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 246 Location: Norway
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Chris Beuermann wrote: | Hello,
In Cubase 4 this behaviour is the same. In Cubase SX3 the behaviour was not consistent.
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That is not correct. In Cubase 4, the delay is always there both on big and small moves. In C5 the delay is only there on small moves.
The C4 way feels better IMO. In fact, I don't see the point in differentiate between those two moves. Especially when you mention that the SX3 way was not consistent.
R _________________ Cubase 5.5.2 | Asus P5Q deluxe |Q9550 CPU | 4GB ram | Win7 | TC Konnekt 48 | Dynaudio BM5a | 2xUAD-1 | 1xUAD2 solo |
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FunkyDrummer Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2009 Posts: 121
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Bump!
Drag Delay does NOT work as intended ! It only under carefully controlled circumstances (see earlier post) !
If my mouse movements were carefully controlled, then I would have no need for the drag delay and the world would be perfect.
However, I am not perfect, neither is my mouse, and dragging accidents do happen (all the time - grrrr).
Cubase is not implementing the delay properly !
Please try it out for yourselves and post your findings here. Then maybe SB will fix it.
Set the delay to 500ms and then try dragging some parts with very short mouse clicks - the parts move within a few ms, not 500ms _________________ Cubase 5.52 / Win XP Pro SP3 (32bit, 3GB switch) / Intel Core i7 920 CPU (4 x 4.0 GHz) / ASUS P6TSE motherboard / 3GB memory @ 1603MHz / M-Audio 1010LT PCI / UAD-2 Quad / UAD-1 (PCI) |
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runeharpun Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:31 am Post subject: |
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I guess the challenge here is to get SB to aknowledge that this is a bug. According to a post by Chis, this is "working as intended". When users point out that it doesn't, then no reply from the mods and the thread just fades away.
R _________________ Cubase 5.5.2 | Asus P5Q deluxe |Q9550 CPU | 4GB ram | Win7 | TC Konnekt 48 | Dynaudio BM5a | 2xUAD-1 | 1xUAD2 solo |
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Conman Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Used to have some dragging problems a loooong time ago but have not noticed anything unusual about this feature so far.
Dragging works fine here. And at my mate's studio and he drags things about rillly fast. No problem.
So, what is the problem? What does it stop you doing?
And why do you have to edit "really fast"? Professional editing should not be rushed especially on a complex project. _________________ Enjoy the music.
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FunkyDrummer Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| runeharpun wrote: | I guess the challenge here is to get SB to aknowledge that this is a bug. According to a post by Chis, this is "working as intended". When users point out that it doesn't, then no reply from the mods and the thread just fades away.
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Indeed. Why does technical support have to be such a goddam uphill battle??? _________________ Cubase 5.52 / Win XP Pro SP3 (32bit, 3GB switch) / Intel Core i7 920 CPU (4 x 4.0 GHz) / ASUS P6TSE motherboard / 3GB memory @ 1603MHz / M-Audio 1010LT PCI / UAD-2 Quad / UAD-1 (PCI) |
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FunkyDrummer Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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BUMP!
The drag delay is most definitely not working _________________ Cubase 5.52 / Win XP Pro SP3 (32bit, 3GB switch) / Intel Core i7 920 CPU (4 x 4.0 GHz) / ASUS P6TSE motherboard / 3GB memory @ 1603MHz / M-Audio 1010LT PCI / UAD-2 Quad / UAD-1 (PCI) |
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JHP Administrative Moderator
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DocMa Member
Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 301 Location: Osnabrück, Germany
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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It doesn't work here either.
Cheers, Matze! _________________ C5.5, C4.1.3LE, MOTU 24I/O, PCI-424e, UAD-1, UAD-1e, Native Komplete 5 + 6, BFD2, Intel DP35DP, Core 2 Duo E6750, 2x WD Raptor, 4GB Patriot RAM, WinXP Pro SP3
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