Cubase VST Song import in Cubase 4/5: a solution

Sonic_X · Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject:

awsom, you guys save me from headake...thanx Smile

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Davedorn · Member Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 453 Location: UK

It is one of the biggest bugbears I have with Cubase that compatibility is completely broken. Bottom line, for me, is that I cannot collaborate with a Cubase user that's on a different version from me. I can't even move a project out of my "flagship" (C4) into my "portable" (SE3) versions, and, even though I can open the SE3 version in C4, I can't save it back to that version.

This amazes me, given that the save algorithms and code from prior versions is already done - how hard can it be to incorporate all prior saves into later versions?? And saves from SX to SL/vice versa...?

Add to that the fact that there's no stem export, and any claimed compatibility between versions simply does not exist.
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studio64 · Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:38 pm Post subject:

Hi Guys

I'm just about to install SX3.1 for conversion purposes, and set up wants to install an earlier version of synchrosoft.

I obviously dont want this this to happen.

My SX3 licence is already listed as installed, so is there a way just to install SX3.1 bypassing the synchrosoft install

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philg · Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:47 am Post subject: .All file to .cpr converter

Thanks for this.

I was REALLY worried when I started up Cubase 4 for the first time and discovered that I could not import my .all filles. 5-6 years of work at risk.

I am hoping this will work ok with my VST32 files, as I have yet to put the time aside to do all my file conversions.

Phil

philg · Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:41 am Post subject: Earlier version of Syncrosoft

There isn't much alternative, other than to install, else the SX3 install aborts. But I agree it is pretty worrying.

My USB License Key works fine after doing the SX3 install, so I have not bothered to try and re upgrade the Syncrosoft software again.

philg · Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:45 am Post subject: re VST32 .all files

Confirming that I have had no problems importing my VST32 .all files to SX3, then saving as .cpr files to use in Cubase 4.

It is easier to make changes to settings (midi ports, etc) in SX4, rather than stuffing around in SX3 during the transition process.

Thanks to Steinberg for the workaround.

Astralis · Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject: Cubase VST - Cubase Studio 4

Haven't tried it yet and I'm not sure if I will.
I have midi-files of almost all my music and those can be imported. Of course there are things missing, like mixer-maps and drum-maps. But those things aren't in Cubase Studio 4, to my knowledge and I'm not sure if there is a way around them.

Perhaps I should start some different subjects on this.
In Cubase VST I had several mixer-maps for my instruments. Among them there was a mixer-map to make all kind of changes on my Nord Electro, like drawbar-settings, pianosounds and effects. I think the only way to do this now is to put all those things in the midi-track.
With the mixer-maps I could put all kind of changes on the exact spot I wanted them to happen. The mixer in Cubase Studio 4 only works if the song is running and I don't see a way to make a volume-change at some exact spot, unless I put all those changes in the midi-tracks.

Anyone can tell me more about this?

I have some other questions as well.

Astralis · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject:

Yesterday I downloaded the program and at first it didn't start, so I decided to download the older version of the Synchrosoft software. Now it works and I've converted some old stuff that I hadn't recorded yet, exept for some demo-versions. With importing the midi-files I lost information on the tracks. Either I couldn't see what instrument was used, or I couldn't see what sound I used.

The only thing that bothers me is the fact that I lost the mixer-tracks, which sometimes carry vital informotion. I had a mixer with all functions of my Nord Electro, so I could use this for instance for the drawbar-settings. I find this a little bit annoying and wished there was a way to work around this. I have the feeling my drummaps are gone as well.

gmurrant · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject:

I need to convert some old .arr and .all files for use in Cubase 4 LE. I downloaded and installed SL3 and SX3 but they will not run. Nor do they appear in my License Control Center (Mac OSX). I installed the most recent version 5.4.10.8 and my 4LE is there, but it cannot find either SL or SX3. Any Suggestions?

Robin Heuristic · Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:26 am Post subject:

I have another related question, a little while back, I was able to DL the SX3 in advance of having C5 (ordered but still waiting) however, I am going from CS4 to C5, so I am wondering if I can get the C4 installer as my old CS4 installation will no longer function once the licesnse is updated to C5.

I still have a ton of old SE projects which I am working on upgrading....

Thanks in advance.
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trakais · New Member Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 6

Hmmm - the winzip file for SX3 on a PC is of course flat - no folder structure - yet when I try to launch the install, it begins to look for files like syncrosoft in a sub folder and then appears to fail because it can't navigate to that subfolder - what is the trick to using the files on this zipfile to install SX3, or what other steps are there inbetween unzipping to a temp folder and simply clicking on the setup.exe?

Thanks! D

Shado-Beatz · Junior Member Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 21

Hello,

I also have a question, im using C5, but i want to downgrade my product to SX3, is it possible with this zip file and license?
i saw the reply's from several users, and some of them have a problem with the installer.exe of the zip file.. how can we solve this problem?
License center is up to date..

Greetz from The Netherlands.

Shado-Beatz
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zoot · Junior Member Joined: 27 May 2006 Posts: 73

What is the process for opening SX1.06 files in Cubase 5, please. The compatibility list says that you can't. I am hoping that I have missed something.

thanks,

Paul

Ostracman · Junior Member Joined: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 17

I have tried to install Cubase SL3 so that I can import my old VST files into Cubase Studio 4 but I am unable to get the installer to work.

Each time I try and extract the files using the Windows XP extraction wizard I get this error -
"Compressed (zipped) Folders Error - Error reading the file."

Clicking on setup.exe does nothing.

I have downloaded the file from the Steinberg site twice and get the same result.

I hope somebody can suggest what might be wrong here.
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donntarris2009 · New Member Joined: 05 May 2009 Posts: 1

MacBook, Leopard OS X 10.5.6, Syncrosoft installed version as per this thread, SX 3 download as per this thread, Cubase Essential 4 loaded from purchased installer.

SX 3 started up once. Following that, at some point Syncrosoft license control center wanted to be updated. As there was no strong warning (or any warning that I could find) about not doing this, I proceeded, following which - SX 3 would no longer start up because of a problem with its license. Although it showed up when I checked the dongle in LCC, it persisted with the error message. Cubase Essential 4 continued to start up fine.

After reading through this post for the third time, it tweaked that one would perhaps have to be running an older version of Syncrosoft LCC, so I downloaded it again, removed the later version and installed as per this thread once more. Now the dongle isn't recognized properly, and neither SX 3 nor Essential will start...

Back to the drawing board. I guess I'll have to uninstall everything to do with Cubase and Syncrosoft and start again, which is very frustrating. How about Steinberg have a chat with Syncrosoft so that one can load the latest version of LCC and not break the ability to recognize licenses previous to Cubase Essential 4 so we can run SX, SL 3...

Thanks,
Donn

methilde · New Member Joined: 20 Jun 2009 Posts: 1

Funkymonkey · Junior Member Joined: 20 Apr 2007 Posts: 17

OMG, i am so glad i came across this topic, well glad and furious at the same time.

Glad because: i had no idea VST32 5 projects could not be imported to Cubase 5; and pleased with myself for not deleteing SX3 from the music computer; and very pleased that i didnt waste hours and hours of my time trying to import something its impossible import, simply because i have had a mindset since 1989 that everything can be imported when upgrading;
Furious because: i had expected the backward importing support; whilst i still have Atari stuff unconverted, its more about the work that will be involved sorting out over 50 songs sitting unconverted, but is in VST32 5 format

jrmoon · New Member Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 6

I am assuming that this works with the latest build of Cubase 5?

jrmoon · New Member Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 6

After I installed SX3 and went to launch it, i get the error "Syncrosoft License Control - Error - No protection device connected.
Well my protection device is connected and glowing blue. ???
Any ideas?
Im on an 2009 Imac Intel running Cubase 5

daistar · New Member Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Posts: 1

Hi

I'm Dave and I'm a VST 3 owner.

These programs are the Rosetta Stone (look it up!)

I'd firstly like to thank Steinberg for customers in exactly the same position as me (no printer port on new computers - therefore no means of accessing the program with printer port dongle). I think there is another method of transfering your licence to a USB dongle on this site. But I am going to use this just before selling my current computer,as it only pertains to VST 5. Although hey! what have I got to lose then,right ?

Thankfully this is the means to do it. If you are as fortunate as me as to have saved all your song data as arrangements, you're home and dry. Cubase SX3 can import .arr files and .all files and various data that earlier versions output.

My first advice is to follow the instructions very carefully as I could not firstly get SX3 to run.

If you indeed have a bona fide version of Cubase 4 as I do it is very important do to things in the right order,they are

1 Download the program (eg Cubase SX3)
2 Unzip it
3 Install it
4 Do not run it
5 Install newest version of elicencer control centre (6.0.2.7010)
6 Run program

The program should now run.

Also another method of importing song or data to Cubase 4 from earlier versions is via MIDI files. Having tried this and come across a major problem.It was solved by one of the very competant staff at Steinberg.You can convert your data to MIDI files but when you load them into Cubase 4 there is no MIDI output.Voila! - go to Cubase 4 > "File > Preferences >MIDI File > Import To Instrument Tracks".Now uncheck "Import To Instrument Tracks". You can now allocate your MIDI imputs and outputs as you wish (in my case USB in and out).

hope this of help to many people in my position.

In the end I suppose Steinberg had to move forward, Very Happy

but I'm glad that they remember the many,like me,who have spent most of their lives,hours,days,years writing and recording in music.

Many thanks

Dave Very Happy

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jobuer53 · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:02 pm Post subject:

Upgrade to SX3!
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mark.king · Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 4:15 pm Post subject:

This is going to get worse as time goes on. I went back to a set of old songs today to find they were in .all format. This year I moved to an i7 machine with win7 64 when my xp machine died.

Guess what I can't install sx3 in win7. I will probably be able to use my partners older xp machine but when this is no more in a few years then I will have to have all files converted.
If not then they will be lost forever. If I were to start importing all my old projects from CD/DVD then save them all and backup to media again it would take me weeks of none stop work.

This is crazy but unless I do it in a few years sx3 will not be installable on any machine.

Very unhappy with SB at the moment
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