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MrSmith
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Hi all,
I have been a long time owner of every version cubase from VST onwards and reader of this forum. This is my first post.
I am a fan and user of Yamaha hardware (promix-->01v--> 01v96).I have a midex 8 (oops!) And I have a RME 9652.
I really needed a new interface.
I thought that Yamaha and Steinberg together would have the potential to do something great.
I was stunned to read about the fundamental floors in the MR816 (and annoyed that the block diagrams are most kindly described as inaccurate).
I was disappointed that the MR816 has no midi. And amused by the 20 ms safety buffer for 64bit systems.
Ultimately I had to purchase a 5 year old piece of hardware that obviously still cannot be beaten (FireFace 800).
I can't wait for the MR916??? to come out so the developers can cheerfully expouse the fact that it does not work like the MR816.
Sorry to be so negative but the detail of the MR816's operation dissappointed me so much that I was moved express these thoughts
so that it might lead to a better product which I will happily buy. |
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MR916 you say..  Might wanna check that one out..
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| zinimoon wrote: | | Chris Beuermann wrote: | Hello,
| Quote: | | this just temporary or is this the way the unit is designed to work? |
This is designed to work this way.
Switching the DSP's from the input busses to the audio tracks takes less the 3 sec. But when you playback your recording, then you can use ofcourse all your other plugins in Cubase.
A headphone mix from (one of) the musiciens is not the mix you want to hear as an engineer when you play back the recording 
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dear chris,with all respect,how can you postulate this?
1. i`ve been working on lots of records,and i tell you: yes, i want to hear the same reverb the singer has on the cans......
2. it`s not only about the engeneer or producer,the SINGER needs to hear the same all the time to keep the mood,regardless if the daw is in stop,record or playback mode.
3. as i wrote on another post on the same subject,the workaround with some other reverb is completely unsatisfying.
after buyng i realised this,and i`m totally dissapointed.
i appreciate the work of you steinberg guys,but i will never understand,why this wasn`t planned right for a new interface sold as `fully integrated`.
we do not talk about a missing feature,we talk about something essential........
sorry,but the developers did a step in the right direction,but didn`t think it to the end.....i just cannot get it. to me it looks like nobody with a solid background in recording talked with the developers about this...????
as i said before,i like what steinberg is doing,but in this case...........forget the quick controls,forget the nice blue led`s, please care for the essentials.
please fix this somehow,then this unit will be a serious new step in `full integration`
regards,frank |
I'm in complete agreement. I'm glad I found out that the unit works this way before getting serious about purchasing it. I would have been very disappointed. It appears that I will have to stick with my present methods and just try to achieve lower latency with a faster computer. If in the future, Steinberg releases a new version of this product, I would be very interested in it. Presently though, it's "close, but no cigar". The absence of MIDI and the quirky approach to the mix environment will keep me buying more RAM and faster CPUs in the meantime.
Jeff
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tomppaa
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| zinimoon wrote: |
1. i`ve been working on lots of records,and i tell you: yes, i want to hear the same reverb the singer has on the cans......
2. it`s not only about the engeneer or producer,the SINGER needs to hear the same |
Pardon me for asking, since I don't even own a MR816 unit yet...
BUT would it be possible to route the already recorded vocal tracks to some free physical output(s), from where you could patch a cable back into an input channel and reverberate that, simultaneously with the vocal track to be recorded?
IOW could you loop the recorded tracks back into the inputs and monitor those with Rev-X...?
P.S. I Don't mean to steer the conversation off-topic, just trying to present an uneducated solution...  |
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shaydoc
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Hi,
Just bought an MR816 X, got it B-Stock even better saved £120 on it. End result I am over the moon with this kit, over the moon.
Started out, with it at the weekend, though and it was nay lookin' so rosey....as you'd expect I, the "user" had teething issues gettin' it running!
The main issue was my dodgy firewire card on my Dell D820. So got a Belkin Fire PC card and patched XP sp3 just in case. After that all started to behave as it should.
Initially, the software installed like a dream, update Cubase to AI to 4.5.2 no problems, did the firmware update no probs and bang I'm away.
I did have some glitches on playback of audio with ASIO time overloads triggering intermittently, so I went about disabling as much of the services as possible, AntiVirus etc..... I am running it at 24 bit, 44.1 KHz, 256 samples and behaves fine, even dragged it down to 64 samples and
it was fine. When I tested 96 KHz, got the odd ASIO spike glitch, but good stuff in general.
When u r used to using a 2bit recording ( :D , pardon the pun ) setup like I have been used to, this is a dream, probably the best musical thing I have ever bought. Even nicer than me lovely Telecaster..
I have an Audio Technica AT3035 so I decided to recorded some acoustic tracks and some harmony vox along with a bit of bass ( Epi SG Copy short scale ) bass through the HI-Z and flaming Nora, it was very flattering....the bass sound was class just the way I like it.
Only question left is :
has anyone chained a Liquid Mix to this unit, I know they recommend that the Liquid gets it own Firewire bus, but just curious cos I have heard folks have had success chaining the Saffire 56 with the Liquid Mix ?
I primarily want to use the Liquid Mix at the "mixing" stage funnily enough, not while tracking.
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tomppaa
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| tomppaa wrote: | | zinimoon wrote: |
1. i`ve been working on lots of records,and i tell you: yes, i want to hear the same reverb the singer has on the cans......
2. it`s not only about the engeneer or producer,the SINGER needs to hear the same |
Pardon me for asking, since I don't even own a MR816 unit yet...
BUT would it be possible to route the already recorded vocal tracks to some free physical output(s), from where you could patch a cable back into an input channel and reverberate that, simultaneously with the vocal track to be recorded?
IOW could you loop the recorded tracks back into the inputs and monitor those with Rev-X...?
P.S. I Don't mean to steer the conversation off-topic, just trying to present an uneducated solution... |
Well I finally purchased the MR816 and tried this myself, since no one answered this. Indeed you CAN reverberate the DAW tracks simultaneously with the signal to be recorded, by following the method I presented above!
Also, another option would be to quickly apply the Rev-X to the recorded track and just freeze the reverberated signal for monitoring use. After this, you can just put the Rev-X back into the input channels and still hear the reverberated audio track along with the inputs.
Just remember to carefully patch the signal when using the method # 1 in order to prevent feedback. And remember, the physical outputs are line/speaker level, so don't treat them as mic signals. Gain staging and impedance matching are important.
On another note, FWIW, I am quite frankly a bit astounded by all the drama surrounding some of these forums. Particularly since most of it seems to be always catalyzed by the same 10-15 users.
Guys, this is engineering. You cannot see yourself as just a passive receiver who only complains, before even trying to find the appropriate solution for himself. I think we all could have a better time here, if some of the (probably younger) members could just drop the unneeded drama. These things require a bit of thinking and work before everything can be fully and individually optimized. DAW with a million features cannot present everything it has available at the touch of a single button.
Of course, constuctive discussion is always important. Asking questions and answering them, spotting bugs, and making wishlists are all important. Just don't confuse work with "workaround"...!
Btw, the sound quality of this thing is quite amazing, especially compared to the price!
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commandcom
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| tomppaa wrote: | | tomppaa wrote: | | zinimoon wrote: |
1. i`ve been working on lots of records,and i tell you: yes, i want to hear the same reverb the singer has on the cans......
2. it`s not only about the engeneer or producer,the SINGER needs to hear the same |
Pardon me for asking, since I don't even own a MR816 unit yet...
BUT would it be possible to route the already recorded vocal tracks to some free physical output(s), from where you could patch a cable back into an input channel and reverberate that, simultaneously with the vocal track to be recorded?
IOW could you loop the recorded tracks back into the inputs and monitor those with Rev-X...?
P.S. I Don't mean to steer the conversation off-topic, just trying to present an uneducated solution... :o |
Well I finally purchased the MR816 and tried this myself, since no one answered this. Indeed you CAN reverberate the DAW tracks simultaneously with the signal to be recorded, by following the method I presented above!
Also, another option would be to quickly apply the Rev-X to the recorded track and just freeze the reverberated signal for monitoring use. After this, you can just put the Rev-X back into the input channels and still hear the reverberated audio track along with the inputs.
Just remember to carefully patch the signal when using the method # 1 in order to prevent feedback. And remember, the physical outputs are line/speaker level, so don't treat them as mic signals. Gain staging and impedance matching are important.
On another note, FWIW, I am quite frankly a bit astounded by all the drama surrounding some of these forums. Particularly since most of it seems to be always catalyzed by the same 10-15 users.
Guys, this is engineering. You cannot see yourself as just a passive receiver who only complains, before even trying to find the appropriate solution for himself. I think we all could have a better time here, if some of the (probably younger) members could just drop the unneeded drama. These things require a bit of thinking and work before everything can be fully and individually optimized. DAW with a million features cannot present everything it has available at the touch of a single button.
Of course, constuctive discussion is always important. Asking questions and answering them, spotting bugs, and making wishlists are all important. Just don't confuse work with "workaround"...!
Btw, the sound quality of this thing is quite amazing, especially compared to the price!
Peace |
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And thanks for the idea! (Should be a sticky! :D )
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Kambiz
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great concept.
but how about a mix of MR816 and CC121 for advanced home recording purpose. I suppose many people need only one high quality stereo output. Just something like NI KORE2 and Apogee Duet for the PC. |
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aroma
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excellent here too  very nice sound quality, very stable (on windows 7 32 bit  )... easily running projects at 128 byte buffers.
What would be better is to be able to assign a specific output as "master out", so that when u turn the master knob that won't affect all the outputs (really annoying when for example you want to turn down the speakers but still routing the signal to external processing).
Also waiting for native windows 7 32 and 64 bit drivers...
very satisfied over all though (especially with ti chipset firewire, onboard or on a card)
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64 bit is now a must.. and Windows 7 for Windows users too... coming really soon.
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What is the difference between the two versions available? Just curious.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:40 am Post subject: MR816CSX is GREAT! |
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I have been a Cubase user before there was a vst attached to it so you can say I am a loyal Steinberg user.
I purchased the MR816 CSX earlier this year. I will say its functionality and DSP power as a sound card is unmatched buy any other consoles I have owned.
I stand by Steinberg products as my MAIN sequencer,VST,mixing and applications. The MR816CSX just makes me that much happier.
With the current updates the functionality is drastically increased. On my Mac systems the unit works flawless. On my XP system I have issues with the current firmware. I rolled back the drivers to the previous firmware and its smooth sailing.
Steinberg needs to support me in what I do! When everyone screams ProTools I say CUBASE!!!!!!!
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Basically it works but there are several issues (and one of them is really severe)
- I get random drops in the audio stream. Not so frequently so for now i will defer the issue.
- If I switch the user I get an error during the new user profile's loading and from that point on
the audio interface is unusable (from both users) until system reboot (very annoying! )
- Sometime during an audio playback end/or recording the system freeze coomplitely or generates a BSOD
saying something about a clock interval timeout (very very disappointed )
I'm about to contact the Steinberg tecnical support in order to ask for help but I really feel very sad because
I've sold my previous DAW control surface (Tascam FW-1884) because of drop out problems and now, after spending
a lot of money, I ended up with a worse situation ...
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royfagon
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: MR816csx & Duende |
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Used to have a Duende and MR816csx together running on a P4 Gigabyte motherboard with 2gb RAM, no problems.
Upgraded motherboard and processor to Core 2 Quad with 3.5gb RAM on a new Gigabyte board.
Had audio on MR stop when modifying Duende plugins. Noticed that if you powered the Duende on and off that MR would also
initiate a false restart. Was using the same firewire card with 3-ports from last setup, so bought a new card and had the same problem.
Decided to use one card per device and now the false restarts have stopped.
Problem now is that when in playback I get an occasional stutter in the audio.
The original FW card was a VIA chipset and the new one is a Agere (LUCENT).
Feeling a bit down that audio isn't playing back fluidly now I have a faster machine.
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my Steinberg MR816 X is working perfectly with Windows XP (x64) + Cubase 4 (x86) + i7 920 + 6GB DDR3. i almost consider my Steinberg products gifts from heaven since for the first time ever i'm truly close to the quality want and i can get it in my bedroom! i have a Gigabyte motherboard with a TI firewire controller and no problems what-so-ever, love love love it
i got it all fully set up just last week and here's a quick song i've done with it if anyone want's to get the idea of it's preamps & converters: http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8213453
cheers Steinberg!!
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audio quality and reliability is absolutely fantastic! finally i hear my outboard stuff in a resolution that can only be described as Hi-Fi!
regarding the hiccups that others reported: i think as long as you have it connected to a TI firewire card, you should be on the safe side. my computer is definitely not the best, but everything EXCEPT the editor (please have a look at my other thread) works flawlessly! |
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royfagon
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SUCCESS AT LAST!! Ok I did all that was asked of me from disabling the EIST in the BIOS to setting all background process to high in the Windows Performance tab.
But was still getting annoying dropouts.
I'm currently using two separate FW cards as I was getting some kind of clash between my SSL Duende and MR816.
If I left the MR816 idling for more than ten minutes the audio output would shutoff. Don't ask me how it just stops allowing any audio out.
I decided to swap the FW cables around to the opposite cards (see: http://www.magnoliumstudios.com/images/fwcards.jpg).
Both cables were in the bottom socket on each card before but now I put one of the cables in the top socket.
This caused Windows to initiate a "New Device Found" wizard which then installed the Yamaha FW drivers again.
It seems that each socket must have a dedicated yamaha FW driver assigned to it.
I already have a new FW Texas Instrument chipset on delivery and will try it out once it gets here, but why rock the boat
as I've spent weeks trying to get this thing stable.
So my advice is check Firewire, BIOS and third party software.
Also look out for Windows automated Defrag which can cause high processing peaks. I've disabled mine in the registry.
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Just had delivery of a new Belkin FW card which has the Texas Instrument chipset (pcc-fwc-belpci400) and installed it into my Pc.
Seems to be performing great. Will let you know if any funnies happen.
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I have been happily using the MR816X for a couple weeks now. I had been using a Prism Orpheus prior to this. The Orpheus is considered to be one of the best firewire interfaces on the market and costs about 5x what the MR816 costs. I originally bought the MR to try A/Bing it against the Orpheus to see how much of a difference there actually would be. After some major testing via double blind ABX testing, I could NOT accurately tell the difference between the two units. One of the tests was running a mix out of each units D/A and recording it back into the same units A/D. I level matched the two within 0.1 db. The best score I got in the double blind ABX test was around 50% showing that I could not really tell a difference between the Orpheus and the MR. Very impressive indeed.
The second test involved the preamps. I recorded my studio partners Yamaha C7 concert grand piano with a pair of Josephson C42 matched mics. The recordings were down through Millennia HV3 mic pre's through the Prism Orpheus. That chain has a value of $8500. I then recorded the same piano through the same mics in the same position through the MR816 with the built in pre's. We did 10 performances of the musical piece through each recording chain, since each performance would sound slightly different. Myself and a number of others at the studio could not accurately identify which recording was from which chain with more than 50% accuracy in blind comparisons.
Needless to say I was thoroughly impressed with the MR and it is now the main 'brain' of my studio. The Prism Orpheus and Millennia HV3D have since been sold. Great job on this unit Steinberg!
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O.k., here is the low down of my experience for the last week dealing night and day with Cubase 5.1 and the MR816X: For the last week I have had sleepless nights and sometimes days trying to figure out the setting up of the MR816X and Cubase 5.1 and why so many problems with AUDIO and MIDI. Some have written wondering why the MR816 does not support MIDI, well I have finally figured out the dilemma. Regarding the function of my system and the issue which occurred.
After the first few days I was *quiz* off and decided to call Steinberg Tech. Support. The Tech. told me to purchase a "Firewire Card" with the Texas Instrument Chipset. It took me a day or so to find one. I downloaded and installed the 1.5 drivers onto my computer and the new firmware 1.10 which was easy to install and is necessary to separate the volume control of the headphones and the master volume of the MR816. All seemed well after a few attempts of installing and uninstalling. O.k., mission accomplished.
After all these challenges I could not understand why I could not get an output for MIDI. I saw a signal but no sound. The only way I could hear sound is when I used an audio track with a MIDI Track on top of the track or below it i.e., (1/2 or 2/3). I thought this to be strange, why would Steinberg do something stupid like this? I blamed the MR816X and wondered to myself why did I not just purchase the CC121 and stick with my MOTU 1224 at least when I used it I could play and record MIDI no problem "if it ain't broke why fix it". Even in "Band In A Box" and other MIDI programs the MIDI would not produce an output. I would see the signal, but there was no sound. Are you still with me? Well, after sitting and "farting" around with my system I realized the Virtual Mixer of the MR816X volume slider was turned down on the channels seven and eight of which my Keyboard is connected. "BINGO!" MIDI came through on Band IN A BOX and other software programs. I became as happy as a Lark with a piece of bread. My discovery was at 5:30am WOW!! finally, MIDI. By this time I felt like a stooge realizing my problem could have been resolved by just turning up the volume sliders on the on screen Virtual MR. I thought HOORAY!!! I've done it.
Well, not so quick. I went back into Cubase 5 and low and behold still no MIDI the same as I explained earlier. Me, being the brainiac that I am (smile) decided to open up Cubase 4.1 to see if the problem was the same as in Cubase 5 re: MIDI. WWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW!!! with water filling my eyes I thought to myself "would you look at this"? MIDI signals and sound coming from the MR816X.
In summary, all who are complaining of MIDI not working in Cubase 5 with the MR816 you are absolutely correct. It is a Steinberg problem. Can any one else comment on this? Is this worthy for another fix in the next update.? Would someone else please confirm or correct me in this topic? I have lost not only sleep, but hair too. In fact, my wife saw me walking down the hallway asked me "Who are you"? My children and grand Children hardly recognized me. I may have aged five years with in the last week. My eye balls are almost burnt out of the sockets. Beside all I have said, I am know a happy camper. In case I failed to mention: THE VIRTUAL MR816 WHICH WILL ALLOW MIDI TO PERFORM DOES NOT WORK IN CUBASE 5.1 IT DOES WORK IN CUBASE 4 ON SCREEN. Fix the Virtual MR to work in Cubase 5 and this will resolve the problem. sorry for repeats in my statement I am exhausted and almost out of my mind. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
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danbelina
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| Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:07 pm Post subject: I love it! |
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In fact, I wish that I could have bought it years ago.
Mind you, it's not been smooth sailing. It's taken 3 firewire cards, however, I am running Windows 7 which is unsupported (as yet), so I will wear an amount of the problem as being my own issue.
Basically, it sounds sweeeeeeet!, always works - of itself.
The hardware integration is the tricky bit... I bought a new PC especially as a good pc was cheap compared to this and a cc121. Steinberg, if your going to start doing hardware seriously, i suggest that a forum is setup to let people suggest off the shelf PC's that work well with the MR816 (and cubase?). Having done all manner of desktop/network support, some computers will work well with exotic hardware and others are guaranteed to be problems every time. If it's user feedback then Steinberg doesn't have liability for the suggestions, it also let's people just get up and running without as much hassle. Who knows, maybe a manufacturer will design a workstation for the mass market that with a little thought is brilliant in a DAW role.
I'm a Bassists that can play some midi keys/guitar, from my perspective, the MR816CSX and CC121 together make life so much simpler for recording in cubase, this is evolution in action. Should be upgrading from Cubase 4 to 5 in the next two weeks, so i hope that I don't have to take another 2 steps backward in getting setup all over again.
Oh yeah, please make an interactive tutorial with some less tech explanations. I've been using a DAW for years but never knew what the term meant. To me, it's like walking up to a bunch of "Blokes" around a car engine talking car talk, I haven't grown up around car talk and don't know what it means, but can drive a car and change the air in the tyres. You have the technical documents, so please do the user friendly version too.
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1saiah
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:05 pm Post subject: MR816CSX W/Imac 27" 2.88 QUAD-CORE i7 |
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I've been running Nuendo 4 and the MR on a PC build for couple months and it was basically overloading the system making it run like shat. Would literally crash on me randomly during sessions. So i bought an Imac 27" quad-core i7 and finally it runs beautifully. Took me a while to update my imac to run Nuendo and MR816CSX properly but now it run great. No crashes so far and everything seems to be running a lot smother and much much faster with this new Intel i7 870 imac with a ATI Radeon HD 4850 GPU combo. I have yet to come across any bug or glitches, only time will tell. But as of now it will be hard for me to replace this system for any Logic series. Can Logic pro even run or recognize the MR816CSX if i were to switch over to apple's Logic series?
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[quote="tomppaa"][quote="tomppaa"] | zinimoon wrote: |
Also, another option would be to quickly apply the Rev-X to the recorded track and just freeze the reverberated signal for monitoring use. After this, you can just put the Rev-X back into the input channels and still hear the reverberated audio track along with the inputs.
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sorry to ask but, how exactly do you apply the rev x to the recorded signal without changing it to 'external in the CP? Can you give full details please if you have the time? Thanks
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Jake68
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My feedback is that the unit is conceptually excellent.
Its sound quality is price winning, and excellent for something costing twice as much.
But the driver implementation needs serious work. Especially for owners of more than one unit that I beleive has a current problem?
The way preferences are stores for the I/O and not cleared by subsequent updates to drivers and program, which can cause dropouts.
I want another, but for now, I will hold back until these issues are addressed with what we hope are version 2 drivers.
If Steinberg doesnt service this hardware properly, and together with Yamaha develop serious motion in driver development, I am afraid I will be vocally disappointed.
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danbelina
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| Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:29 am Post subject: For future model, swap port 1/2 (mike/guitar) |
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This DAW also get's used for other stuff.
If I'm speaking online (internet telephony, online gaming etc), I need to unplug my mike from port 2 to port 1 and reconfigure it (switch on v boost, turn off HiZ, reset gain).
If the Hi Z was on Port 2, then I'd have no swapping games. |
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ha2dorff
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My feedback...
I've used MR816CSX since it arrived on the market. What I think?
Just ordered one more unit last week...
Say no more...
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ltf3
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Hi
When it comes to building the next iteration: 8 physical analog ins are great but...
8 Mic ins (as they are)
*and*
8 Line Ins (on separate connectors ... I don't mind a break out cable for space reasons ... Tascam format please )
with a switch on each channel ... Mic/Line. Remember those?
Now I can hook up my gear permanently and properly!!! (ie patch panel and Studio Mic plate...)
Oh, and 8 channels of TDIF *and* SPDIF at the same time. (come on guys it's the 21'st Century for heaven's sake!)
I'll pay more for the extra too!
Lee
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chikitin
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I am on Windows 7 with core i7 with 12GB of ram.
Everytime plackback audio through my MR CSX i first get a DROPOUT then after a few second my system completely gets frozen. |
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DodgingRain
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I consider the lack of a set of midi in/out a major annoyance. |
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