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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject: Halion 4 and Cubase 5 (Close-Integration features) ? Reply with quote

Hi,

I'm very excited about the upcoming Halion4 sampler !

I was wondering, if (Cubase 5 + Halion 4) will work in a very close-integration type fashion ? i.e. it would be possible to drag-n-drop regions from Cubase 5 into Halion to create sampled instruments ? and any other powerful features that will make it a Joy Very Happy to create, and edit our custom sampled instruments using (Cubase 5 + Halion 4) ?

Maybe the Halion4 blog will be updated in the near future to provide us with more of these type of details. Also looking forward to Halion-Sonic !

Many Thanks to Steinberg's development team.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, by the time HALion 4 is out there might not be any support for C5 anymore ...

If they do not get Mac programming right this time, they should maybe stay on PeeCee anyways .... (not working around the vnodes behaviour of OSX - 10 years after OSX got released !!!)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would also expect Halion4 and Cubase 6 to be 64-bit on Mac OSX-SL.

Please ... No more technical excuses, especially given the extra time of development Steinberg will take until they release Cubase 6 and Halion 4.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one on the PLANET should expect Halion 4 to take on the likes of KONTAKT or MachFive out of the box.

Job 1 is "Halion 4 is Cubase's own Sampler"

I would LOVE to see H4's supposed 64 channels be able to be set up as "Instrument Channels"

I'd like to see H4, in Cubase/Nuendo ONLY, be able to use "Hi-Def MIDI" 16 bits instead of "standard" MIDI's 8 Bits

Just as Steinberg "borrowed" Melodyne's idea for "Vari-Audio", they should do their version of KONTAKT's AET, to give dead/static samples LIFE!!

Convolution, Convolution, Convolution, "borrow" from Giga, their "Continous Piano" used "one sample layer" for each note, but used convolution

to realistically synthesize timbre changes in respect to dynamics.

Etc, Etc, Etc.................

Screw KONTAKT and MachFive!!! Lets give Halion 4 the power to do, as a Cubase-Nuendo/Halion 4 duo what NO OTHER DAW/Sample duo can TOUCH!!!

With THAT as a GOAL, Halion 4 will be LEGEND!!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope that Halion 4 will have a automatic Legato/Glide Modus so that you only have a portamento when playing legato.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Steiny, are you listening?
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Current VSTi's:
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Garritan GPO, Vir2 EOP, Eastweast Symphonic Choirs, Voices of Passion.
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Halion 4, Kontakt 4 Player, Garritan GPO4 & Big
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please keep the Waldorf Filters !
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a crappy Halion 4 is going to impact on Cubase and Steinbergs other products. An old featureless sampler that Steinberg tell the world is their "flagship" is going to make people think "if this is how far behind they are in sampler technology then i wander what i dont know about Cubase and how old-skool it is also". i think Steinberg are too embarrassed to release their Halion 4 effort. They dont want its release to expose the company as being behind everyone else with their products. Im sure they know they have missed the boat and let Kontact walk in through the door now
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Halion Sonic looks not too bad imo, If they wouldallow loading samples I would prefer the interface over kontakts scrolling and keygroup madness.
A more intuitive than Kontakts rather technical GUI might change a thing.
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