Clicking at start of midi notes

[adamponting]

Help! This is driving me nuts.

Writing music for orchestra with cubase vst score 5.1 on windows me pc, going through a JV1010 for the sounds..

Im getting an annoying clicking at the beginning of the notes on some/most of the parts...didnt used to happen..
tried restarting computer & jv1010, doesnt help.. was intermittent, but can't get rid of it now.

from reading other posts may be something to do with transposing parts??...have had problems with tranpose events mysteriously appearing on parts..the heard pitch wouldnt change, just appearance on score..which prevent score edit window opening {SCORE ERROR! beep!).. but solved that by deleting and reinserting key change signatures...dont know if that's related, that never happened until recently too...

help!!!! thanks..

[matjones]

you need to do this first mate.............. http://forum.cubase.net/phpbb2/images/usbkey/usbkey.html
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[adamponting]

Oh, have never needed to do that before. And i could not find a License or eLicenser Control Center anywhere on my computer.
That page says they are not needed for Cubase VST...

[adamponting]

Help!!
Or is it just me that's having this problem??

[JohnatSongLand]

If I get a song that gets 'corrupted' like this, I drag and drop all the MIDI parts into a folder, take a screen 'photo' of the main song 'page' in Cubase so I know where to put all the parts back in and what VSTi's are loaded and colours parts used, create a brand-new song and drag & drop all the parts in. You may have to tweek a bit (like setting up your part colours again), but it does work.

On the other hand, if it's happening in all of your songs, you may have to do what matjones says...
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[adamponting]

Hi, thanks!, I'll try that sometime..
For the moment I have made the clicking less noticeable by turning the JV1010 volume up to near max, & the computer volume down..

But I think it is happening in all my songs.. in that case, you recommend "doing what matjones says"..I thought I had pointed out before that VST users CAN'T do what matjones says I "need" to, he seems to think I have some other type of cubase than VST.. thus it was worse than useless "advice" the first time around, and hopefully didn't deter too many people from answering me!

(Well, I HAVE had so many problems with cubase over the years, that you might think it is a crack! hehe.. but no.....)

[JohnatSongLand]

OK, so you've found another workaround. That's good.

FYI, VST users CAN do what matjones says you "need" to, but you don't have to. I am running on a USB dongle now, with VST 5.2, and everything is fine. However, I can't see how that would solve your clicking problem. Computers are complicated things and the cause could be anywhere. It may have nothing to do with Cubase - it could be your sound card or who knows what.

Sorry I can't help you further, but I wish you good luck. Do post again if you think I can help you.

Best wishes,

John.

[adamponting]

thanks.

+ oh, was matjones actually being helpful?! I thought that he was just (mistakenly) saying I needed to enter some eLicense number, which I have never heard of, and is apparently a lot of hassle to even find out!, to register properly for this site. That is all that is mentioned on that linked page. I don't see that that would change anything re software or hardware, maybe I don't understand..

[JohnatSongLand]

The advantage of a USB dongle is that it can hold several Steinberg licences that you may have, e.g. virtual instruments, etc.

But I repeat, you don't have to move to a USB dongle in your situation.

Regards, John.

[adamponting]

ah, thanks. Um, I'm a bit confused, but this seems quite apart from my clicking problem. matjones just gave me the link to a page, which doesn't say anything about "moving to a USB dongle".. which operation I had never heard of until just now.. just how some other people need to enter a license number. that linked page certainly doesn't mention USB dongles, or moving to them, or that I should, so I'm not sure how matjones, or you, for that matter, recommended that before. Anyhow...maybe I missed something.

[JohnatSongLand]

If you are thinking of using only Cubase VST 5.x, then you dont have to do anything. If you buy Steinberg products released after 2004, you will need the UBS dongle. This page gives a good explanation of how it all works. As I recall, these later Steinberg products come with a USB dongle anyway, so you don't need to rush and buy one: http://www.floridamusicco.com/proddetail~prod~502009050.htm

I hope this clarifies the matter for you.

Regards, John.

[L0W99]

Do you have a recording of the clicking sound? If adjusting volumes between outputs and your system helps it suggests there is 'overload' somewhere in your signal path. Are your channels peaking in the red at all?

Another possibility is that your latency settings are too low and the soundcard is not able to keep up with the data flow. To find out adjust your latency in OPTIONS>AUDIO SET UP> SYSTEM. Check to ensure you have your sound card specific ASIO driver chosen and click ASIO CONTROL PANEL. There INCREASE the size of your buffer /latency setting to the maximum available. Then try playing back. If the clicking is gone, then lower the buffer/latency value until it starts again. Then you will know the best setting for that song/set up.
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[adamponting]

hey, thanks for your help! i got none so far as u can see...

I have recording of the clicking; can email to u if u like..

I don't THINK is an overload thing - adjusting volume on the jv doesnt change the clicking volume at all..
also, there is no clicking on the output from the jv - but i feed that back into computer, and out again (and any recordings i make of it (i use audacity) have to be fed back in like that too)

as far as increasing buffer - I tried, no difference - (am I wrong: I am only using the MIDI side of cubase, not the audio, I don't think the Audio Setup affects what I am doing at all.. it's only for audio tracks etc.. maybe I'm wrong.. anyhow, in the ASIO drivers I have choice between ASIO Direct X Full Duplex or ASIO Multimedia Driver.. dont know which is the one for my soundcard.. (actually, there was nothing selected initially).. swapping between these, changing buffer size, didnt change the sound at all...)

maybe i should try to change the soundcard settings outside cubase somehow... (its a sis 7018 wave) ..old system i know!

anyhow, thanks.

[L0W99]

Oh I'm so sorry, so the clicking is not coming from the audio outputs of the JV1010 - but when you record the input into Audacity it appears?

So you are playing your parts in Cubase, you can hear your JV11010 beautifully playing, but the Audacity recording has the clicks?

Just send me an MP3/WAV of the Audacity recording?
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[adamponting]

No, Audacity works (almost - occasional skip) great. (I had nightmares trying to record within cubase before that!)

There is clicking whenever I listen to the music from the headphone socket of computer..which is how I listen.. (to save forever moving jack from jv to computer headphone socket!) plus, like i said, any recordings will have that too..