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Muser999 Junior Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 81
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:37 am Post subject: Cubase - Quad Core twice as powerful as Core2duo? |
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Hello,
If I change my core2duo for a Quad Core of the same frequency (3Ghz for example)
will cubase be able to use twice the plugins it can use with a core2duo ?
Thanks
also, what difference between i7 and quadcore, they are worth almost the same sometimes... |
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Elien Grand Senior Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 5229 Location: Wien
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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I cannot quatify (nobody can) the number of additional plugins you can use in your szenario. But here is my personal experience:
The Quadcore was a big step... but i7 was a breaktrhough. It is not only because of the number of processors, but the architecture within the chip changed drammatically thus widening other bottlenecks.
With an i7 based machine I so far not a single time had to care about cpu load - and the latency in conjunction with the RME RayDat card is 3ms to 6ms maximum in the heaviest projects I have currently.
Sorry for not being more specific, I would never name a quantity without a clear setup /benchmark. It sometimes can depend even on the individual plugin you are using!
My advice in general: Quadcore is a big step, but get the i7. There DEFINITELY are WOLRDs between the two of them when running cubase on them.
Cheers, Ernst |
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matjones Senior Member
Joined: 15 Jul 2009 Posts: 1244 Location: Staffordshire
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Elien wrote: | I cannot quatify (nobody can) the number of additional plugins you can use in your szenario. But here is my personal experience:
The Quadcore was a big step... but i7 was a breaktrhough. It is not only because of the number of processors, but the architecture within the chip changed drammatically thus widening other bottlenecks.
With an i7 based machine I so far not a single time had to care about cpu load - and the latency in conjunction with the RME RayDat card is 3ms to 6ms maximum in the heaviest projects I have currently.
Sorry for not being more specific, I would never name a quantity without a clear setup /benchmark. It sometimes can depend even on the individual plugin you are using!
My advice in general: Quadcore is a big step, but get the i7. There DEFINITELY are WOLRDs between the two of them when running cubase on them.
Cheers, Ernst |
A BIG +1!!!
I used to run an e6600 C2D before my current i7, i nearly fell off my chair laughing that hard the first time i ran cubase on the i7... the difference is quite simply mind-blowing! i also work on a quad core on a friends house and there is still a BIG difference in performance between his quad and my i7.
If you have the funds then simply the i7 option is a no brainer! _________________ C5.5.2 32/64Bit, RME HDSPe Mulitface II, i7 920 @ 2.67GHz, 6GB Corsair 1600 RAM, Win7 Ultimate 64Bit, BFD2 (BOMB, JnF, Deluxe, Jazz Maple, JEX & Oak packs), Korg Trinity plus, JV1080 + Piano & Ethnic boards, Korg Wavestation SR, Novation A Station, Pod X3 Pro, Yamaha E1010 Analogue delay (Dub city! ), Alphatrack, Warwick, Spector, Ashbory & Peavey Basses........... Loads of other junk and a full pot of Java!  |
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Elien Grand Senior Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 5229 Location: Wien
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Yes,... i7... the breaktrhough for daws on intel pcs.
Ernst _________________ Cubase 5.5.2. XP Pro 32 bit, i7, RME Raydat, Presonus Firestudio + Digimax FS, ART Preamp, Line 6 PodXT Pro, Lexicon MX400, TCHelicon Voicepro, Behringer Headphone amp and DI Boxes, Patchbays, Digital Patchbay, novation sl61, launchpad, AKAI drumpad, Motif XS8, Mics, Guitars, Basses, E-Drumkit, Drumkit, Behringer BCR2000, MCU. GPO with ARIA, Jazz and Bigband, Komplete 6; Jamstix 2 and 3, Melodyne Editor, AAS Instruments, ARC, Miroslav Phil., MS40, Yamaha HS80M plus Subwoofer. AKG headphones, Technics PR305 keyboard, tbc. |
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HowlingUlf Grand Master
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 8196 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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+1 for i7
You pay a little less for those other ones that you mentioned but it's so totally worth it in the long run to have an optimized setup. And let's face it, the extra money can't be spent on anything remotely as vital as the hardware foundation of your digital audio workstation. It's better to make a stretch for a better processor at the start than pretending you save something when you'll just be stuck with a QuadCore for a few years, maybe several years of waiting and cursing and bouncing and compensating and cursing some more
Come to think of it, when I bought my previous computer I actually bought a PIV when the rest of the world bought DuoCores  _________________ Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar
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JimH Junior Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2005 Posts: 59
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: Cubase - Quad Core twice as powerful as Core2duo? |
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Remember that, as was mentioned recently in another thread here somewhere, it seems that all plug-ins for a given track run on one core. That's because the audio for one track has to be processed sequentially and so it can't be run in parallel. So if you're cramming a lot of plug-ins on to one or two tracks, you might not see that a quad-core runs much faster than a dual-core. But when you run more tracks it should spread out the processing better. _________________ Cubase 5.5.0, Windows XP Pro 32-bit, Intel Core i7 920 / ASUS P6T, Yamaha i88X, S90ES/mLAN16E |
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bob1474 Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2007 Posts: 275 Location: Sunny Florida
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: i7 |
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Went to i7 and have never looked back, even with Win XP and CS 5.2.2 32 bit (don't want to lose some of my 32bit plugs just yet nor goof around with bridges.) I even went with a system i could overclock , yet have backed it down to "normal" and still kicking butt. Howling Wolf is on it-spend the extra bucks for the very heart of your system.  _________________ pc#1= Core I7 unlocked 875K cpu (liquid cooled)- 4 gig ram, XP home (32bit) linked (byFX Teleport) to pc#2=2.3 gig P4 cpu, 2 gig ram XP & pc#3= (also Teleported)Laptop=2 gig cpu, 2gig ram using Vista. Cubase Studio 5.5.1, Alesis Multimix 8 firewire .Faderport,and various input devices. |
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Conman Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Me too. As soon as I saw the spec (by accident!) of the i7 I just bagged it straight away. _________________ Enjoy the music. |
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Muser999 Junior Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 81
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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys,
a new I7 based PC is planned now ....
with what i can recycle from the current setup (HDs and peripherals mainly), the bill will be around 900-1000 euros for an i7-950+12GB ram, mobo and powersupply (or 800 if i don't take an SSD for the OS, which is w7x64....).
paid in 3 or 4 payments, it is not that expensive... (350/monthes for 3 monthes i guess it is manageable). |
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