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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:19 am    Post subject: Program crashes when recording Midi.. Reply with quote

When recording midi in a session, some times Cubase crashes right in the middle of record. Does this have to do with to much information playing at one time? I don't really think so because I'm only running about 6 midi tracks. (Much less than Cubase advertises to handled)

Is there a way to stop these crashes? Is it a Midisport problem? it is soooo counter productive to have to reboot in the middle of a session. Thanks all

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
This is a MIDI driver issue that is indeed (also) related to MIDISport.
I had this problem too, the following topic saved me: http://forum.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=27144

I have also prepared some text containing a testing procedure you may want to try. This is written in respect to MIDI timing problems, but also applies to the crash while record issue:

First disable the port filter.
In Explorer go to your Cubase root folder and from its sub folder 'midi port enabler' move the file 'ignoreportfilter' to the Cubase root folder. Start Cubase again.

Now go to 'Devices > Device Setup > MIDI'. You will probably see MIDI ports in both 'Direct Music' and 'Windows MIDI'. Thing to do now is to determine which ports would lead to the best timing results.

Thing to note here is that you cannot activate/deactivate anything here, this entry simply displays wether you have a port assigned to anything in Cubase (track, metronome, etc). What you CAN do is enable/disable 'Show'. Having ports not showing will prevent you from choosing them. All drivers are present all the time, wether put to 'Show' or filtered or not, they are present in Windows.

Also, in 'All MIDI Inputs' the inputs you are not going to use should be set inactive (you can change that there). You should never use the same port from both 'Direct Music' and 'Windows MIDI' as that would lead to recording double notes.

There may also be a checkbox in either or both of 'Direct Music' and 'Windows MIDI' called 'Use System Timestamp', depending on your SX version.

Now, using this background info, you have to do some testing.
Principally there are 4 different options:

- use Direct Music ports; timestamp not activated
- use Direct Music ports; timestamp activated
- use Windows MIDI ports; timestamp not activated
- use Windows MIDI ports; timestamp activated

For each of the 4 options, choose the appropiate ins and outs and do a record test.

When having the port filter disabled you still have only ports in either 'Direct Music' or 'Windows MIDI', there are only two testing options: timestamp activated/deactivated.

After testing I'm sure you will have found the best settings...

Hope this all helps.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:11 am    Post subject: cubase le crash in midi Reply with quote

hello,
i too am having a problem with lock-ups & freeze-ups when trying to record with midi,
but im using a presonus firepod & it came with a version of cubaseLE
im a novice at midi but i know somethings up with my ports .
it keeps defaulting back to my old interface "sea sound solo" ive tried reinstalling the firepod
drivers , & ive tried changing the "midi in" to the new ones ... but when i go back & look
it has changed back to "midi in" "seasound solo"....its not even pluged in but the sound card is still
installed......... i dun know...... any idea,s out there ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried altering the windows sounds?

Control panel/sounds & audio devices.
Under sounds tab set to "no sounds". You won't miss them and they only change sample rates sometimes which is a pain.
Under audio tab set the default devices to your own preference.
You may have to *daisy* about once or twice to get it right if you have choices of soundcard.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: cubase le crash in midi Reply with quote

paul hollis wrote:
... it keeps defaulting back to my old interface "sea sound solo" ...

Did you uninstall the old interface?
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