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 Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:03 pm Post subject: Multi Export Individual Tracks - (MEAP) |
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MEAP by Phil Pendlebury.
What it does: Enable you to export all your tracks to separate audio files, whilst having dinner, coffee, fags etc. Options to set locators either to entire project, only what is recorded on each individual track, individual parts, or leave locators as you set them. Plus tons of other options.
Works with:
Works with:-
Windows: 32 & 64 bit versions of Cubase 5, Cubase Studio 5, Cubase 4, Nuendo 4, Cubase Studio 4, Cubase Essential 4, Cubase AI4, Cubase LE4 - English, Italian, German, French, Spanish
Windows: Cubase SX3, Nuendo 3, Cubase SL3 Cubase SE3 - English, Italian, German, French, Spanish
Instructions and Guide
Forum Please use the MEAP forum for any questions you may have.
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MEAP is not just a standard batch export but way more. Here are just some of the features:
Export Locator Options:
All Project Range
Only the parts on each individual track
From the start of the project to the end of the parts on each track
From the first part on each track to the end of the project
Export each part separately on each track. Every part is exported and named separately
Export your project in sections as set by your Marker Track
Add a nose and tail to your locator settings for catching reverbs and intro sections
File Naming Options:
Use the project track name
Use your own default file name
Insert the location of each part into the file name using whatever format you have displayed on the transport
Use custom file naming where variables can be inserted
Use the audio application default naming (for markers)
Other Options:
Log all actions and exported files to a text file
Take a screen shot of the finished export
Automatically save new project before export
Shut Down your OS after export is done
These are just a few of MEAP's ever growing feature list.
Best regards,
Phil P.
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BIG THANKS to Phil for sharing this!!! 
I am really suprised that C4 didn't have Batch Export. People have been asking for this since Cubase VST and before. Furthermore it's Export dialog isn't as good as SX3's. |
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Cheers for this! One question, could this script somehow set the fader of the relevant track to unity gain, and avoid digital overs, or alternately, tracks that are exported without taking advantage of maximum bit depth (ie - too quiet).
You know what woul be amazing - if the export tool checked the output of the track then adjusted the volume of the master fader accordingly. Impossible no doubt. I still that that selecting the range tool, highlighting every track start to finish, then hitting 'bounce selection' - this way you end up with maximum resolution 24 bit files, without fx - usually what you want when archiving or passing on to a remixer.
Surely, you don't want to export the bass with eq and compression or the vocal with reverb and a 300hz low cut? You can't undo these things later. Also, what about exporting VSTi's like BFD? Is there anyway the script can be tweaked to deal with these issues? |
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| Stuart Stuart wrote: | Cheers for this! One question, could this script somehow set the fader of the relevant track to unity gain, and avoid digital overs, or alternately, tracks that are exported without taking advantage of maximum bit depth (ie - too quiet).
You know what woul be amazing - if the export tool checked the output of the track then adjusted the volume of the master fader accordingly. Impossible no doubt. I still that that selecting the range tool, highlighting every track start to finish, then hitting 'bounce selection' - this way you end up with maximum resolution 24 bit files, without fx - usually what you want when archiving or passing on to a remixer.
Surely, you don't want to export the bass with eq and compression or the vocal with reverb and a 300hz low cut? You can't undo these things later. Also, what about exporting VSTi's like BFD? Is there anyway the script can be tweaked to deal with these issues? |
All good points but not possible mate sorry.
Basically anything (within reason) that uses key commands can be automated. Mouse moves and clicks can be automated too but they change so much from each person's machine that this becomes completely infeasible.
There will be certain amount of adjustment needed to anything you export: Levels, Turning off effects etc. but my view is:
This does not destroy your project, simply don't save the adjustments or save to a new name.
Levels; you can easily batch normalise (I know this isn't exactly what you meant).
Even after spending 10 minutes setting up the project to work with the script it will still save potentially hours of sitting and watching and intervening.
I suppose the key is that you have to offset the amount of time it takes to set up your project to work.
If you only have a few small tracks to export you may as well do it manually. However, if like myself, you have to export 8 minutes versions of every track in a 48 track project every week, it can save you literally hours of time.
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Yes, I thought as much.
The question is, why do you need to export 48 tracks of audio - what's the advantage over simply bouncing the complete track to a new wav file - that way it will retain the name you gave it and you don't have to worry about fx, eq or levels. |
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| Stuart Stuart wrote: | Yes, I thought as much.
The question is, why do you need to export 48 tracks of audio - what's the advantage over simply bouncing the complete track to a new wav file - that way it will retain the name you gave it and you don't have to worry about fx, eq or levels. |
LOL if you don't know mate you don't need to ask... But seriously... Many studios have to do this to send parts to other studios / producers / re-mixers / Dolby digital (for surround mixes that can't be done in house etc) plus a whole load more.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, I've had to send numerous projects onto remixers especially. But I've never given them anything but the raw wave files. |
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| Stuart Stuart wrote: | | Yes, I've had to send numerous projects onto remixers especially. But I've never given them anything but the raw wave files. |
Mate you don't understand...
As an example:
First of all; VST instruments don't have ANY .wav files until they are exported. So what if you are using 10 VSTi tracks and a studio asked you for all of these parts seperately?
You have recorded a vocal. You have then comped the vocal. You have then tuned the vocal. You have then adjusted timing on ceratin words and so on. There is no raw .wav file until it is exported. You are not going to send another studio or producer all the original individual raw .wav files and expect them to piece it all back together and choose the best parts and tune them and adjust timing etc. are you?
Even an audio file that you have imported will very rarely stay exactly as it was when you imported it. At the very least you build up verses and choruses using multiple copies of the same file. I would never expect another studio or producer to have to rebuild an entire track from one raw file that way.
So what this does is enable you to export each vocal track, VSTi track, Audio track etc. as ONE piece which would include all your work on comping etc. (obviously you can disable any inserts and sends) if required.
So this will save you sitting there and selecting each track soloing it, and then exporting it, which could mean repeating this task over and over for hours depending how many separate tracks you need.
I hope that's clear now.
But as I said, if you don't have need for this then you don't need it LOL simple as. Anyone who has ever got annoyed sitting there exporting tracks for a label etc. will know exactly why I made this.
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Thank you, Phil and.... roll... bump!
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| Quote: | | Cubase 4 Multi Export |
Thanks Phil!
Will this export script works with Cubase Studio 4 too?
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Suprised Steinberg couldn't make this happen within their own app.
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hmmm...great little helper there, will have to try it out ASAP!
have to agree though with stuart, for audio files, depending on the job, its usually better to
simply bounce the audio files (instead of exporting/"mixdowning" them). thats WAY faster,
you have a clean 1:1 copy without any processing, and it can be done for all audio tracks
at once with just 3 clicks as well, even keeping filenames intact etc.
for all cases except the rare ones where people want all processing included in the bounces,
thats still better.
but then, nothing speaks against doing one half like this and the other (especially all things midi)
with this tool. if you work a lot with midi, this is still GREAT help, so thank you very much! |
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| Yes Phil, when I say the raw files, I mean a bounce of each track, start to finish, starting at bar 1. I can do a whole project in under two minutes, named a with perfect resolution. I've never been asked for any fx tracks, ever. But it depends - maybe you do a lot of film work where they want stems and whatnot. |
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| Stuart Stuart wrote: | | Yes Phil, when I say the raw files, I mean a bounce of each track, start to finish, starting at bar 1. I can do a whole project in under two minutes, named a with perfect resolution. I've never been asked for any fx tracks, ever. But it depends - maybe you do a lot of film work where they want stems and whatnot. |
Not really but you didn't "say" bounce of each track you said "raw" wav files. raw wave files are the file as you got them, before you edit them, as far as I know. In my case and in the case of many, many professionals I know and work with, bouncing audio will not do the job and it normally takes a lot more than 2 - 3 clicks LOL unless maybe you are talking about 10 second audio clips.
However since you guys seem determined to prove that this little tool is useless LOL (funny how people do that); You have tweaked my interest... So let me give you guys a scenario:
You have just recorded a full track (a pretty average song).
You have 2 or 3 tracks of lead vocals that are comped and tuned (lead, chorus, adlibs).
You have a block of BVs that has been comped from 10 vocals of each harmony down to 4 separate stereo BV tracks.
You have about 10 tracks of MIDI - VSTi instruments; keys, arpegios, pads etc.
You have 4 or 5 audio tracks; Bass, Guitars
You have an audio or VSTi drum track (VSTi or recorded) all instruments separate (kick, snare, HH, Toms, Overheads, Ambience)
That's a total of 29 seperate tracks (and this is an average song).
Now then, let's say you get a call from some producer and he says "OK mate, I love the song I love all the playing and parts but I don't agree with your mixing and choice of effects. I'm willing to produce / mix you track for you... Just mute your reverb sends and insert effects please"... The record label then say he doesn't use Cubase he wants to use ADATs or some other method.
Obviously you would normally set locators to the far left and right of the track and begin exporting each track one by one.
How would you present him with the 29 tracks in "just 3 clicks"?
Please answer?
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hm, seems youre not aware of the bounce selection function.
heres what i would do. first all audio files:
1. marquee select all audio tracks, with the marquee selection starting at one.
2. bounce selection
done. thats two clicks (three if you count selecting the marquee tool nuendo/cubase then renders
all audio tracks as continous audio files, bypassing the mixer and thus extremely fast.
maybe thats a function youre not aware of (it sounds a bit like it).
of course this only works for audio. for midi, this doesnt work, and thats why
people keep asking for a function that works for everything. this is where your
great macro comes in (i dont know why you think were saying its bad, on the contrary i think
its great, because it fills the gap that is not covered by the bounce audio function) |
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| Derek 667 wrote: | hm, seems youre not aware of the bounce selection function.
heres what i would do. first all audio files:
1. marquee select all audio tracks, with the marquee selection starting at one.
2. bounce selection
done. thats two clicks (three if you count selecting the marquee tool nuendo/cubase then renders
all audio tracks as continous audio files, bypassing the mixer and thus extremely fast.
maybe thats a function youre not aware of (it sounds a bit like it).
of course this only works for audio. for midi, this doesnt work, and thats why
people keep asking for a function that works for everything. this is where your
great macro comes in (i dont know why you think were saying its bad, on the contrary i think
its great, because it fills the gap that is not covered by the bounce audio function) |
Mate you didn't read my post at all? In the scenario I described; 4 audio vocals, 10 VSTi MIDI, VSTi drums etc. Of course I am aware of bounce selection LOL. I just don't see the point in you posting saying you do this and do that when you are talking about a specific case (bouncing only audio files)...
Now please explain again how you would do the job I mentioned.
nb: you also missed that I had mentioned bypassing effects but not EQ or automation... (it is usually essential to keep automation).
Sorry but you posting up and saying I use Bounce Slection is like me saying "I use a bus to get to my work up the street so I don't need that leer jet you use to get to work 2000 miles across the sea." It's a complete other scenario and obviously this tool was designed for a specific purpose.
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VST instruments routed to group channels, with some effects, etc. no such thing as "bounce" for that stuff. Have fun "bouncing" four instances of HALion3, with several outputs each.
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Phil, please answer...
- Will this export tool works with Cubase Studio 4 too?
- This tool based on a VB-script?
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| bensm wrote: | Phil, please answer...
- Will this export tool works with Cubase Studio 4 too?
- This tool based on a VB-script?
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2. No it is not VB.
1. No idea, it should work as I think all the dialogs are the same but here's an idea:
Download the tool.
Make a few dummy MIDI tracks of a few bars each with nothing in them.
Track 1: MIDI part going from bar 1 - 8
Track 2: MIDI part going from bar 3 - 10
Track 3: MIDI part going from bar 9 - 15
Follow the instructions and run the tool.
Did it work?
Feel free to post back.
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OK...
So I need to wait until I get Cubase Studio 4 ... |
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| bensm wrote: | OK...
So I need to wait until I get Cubase Studio 4 ... |
Go ahead. Don't worry, if it doesn't work it is a relativley simple task for me to edit the code to make it work. I would just need you to tell me the names of a couple of dialogs etc. It took about 15 minutes to adapt this for SX3.
Same goes for Nuendo etc. (Which I don't have).
So feel free to post back once you get your C4 version and let me know how you get on.
As I said though I am pretty sure it would work fine because although Studio has some features missing I think all the dialogs and keys are the same as full on C4.
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Phil, sorry for any unintended offence - you've created something that obviously a lot of people want and done it for free! I applaud that. Perhaps we've just had different experience of the whole exporting tracks for remixers thing. But I have worked with many of australia's best mixing engineers, guys that have worked with Savage Garden, Silverchair and a bunch of famous aussie bands that you probably haven't heard in the uk.
Anyway, they never want anything with eq or automation. The only limitation of the bounce tracks function is that you still have to export VSTi's independently, but generally that's a pretty minor issue. Except for BFD - exporting each individual output is a *witch*, especially when you using the randomise velocity function!! |
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| Stuart Stuart wrote: | Phil, sorry for any unintended offence - you've created something that obviously a lot of people want and done it for free! I applaud that. Perhaps we've just had different experience of the whole exporting tracks for remixers thing. But I have worked with many of australia's best mixing engineers, guys that have worked with Savage Garden, Silverchair and a bunch of famous aussie bands that you probably haven't heard in the uk.
Anyway, they never want anything with eq or automation. The only limitation of the bounce tracks function is that you still have to export VSTi's independently, but generally that's a pretty minor issue. Except for BFD - exporting each individual output is a *witch*, especially when you using the randomise velocity function!! |
So do you "Bounce Audio" with BFD? Very clever if you do as the function only works on audio tracks.
You still didn't answer my question though.
How do you export mutiple tracks of VSTi etc. as per the scenario I took the trouble to type out earlier. Or are you telling me you never use MIDI tracks and never have to export them? You never use VSTi tracks and never have to export them?
Never mind mate. I just think you should have read the post a bit more carefully before posting and saying you always do it a certain way. Others will read this and if they read your post will think that there is a feature in C4 (or SX for that matter) that allows you to simply bounce multiple tracks.
As most of us know; there is no way to do that other than with plain audio tracks. Hence the need for this tool until it is introduced.
I am persistent in reposting not because I want to argue but because I feel it very important that the correct information is shown in forums like this.
SO anyone else reading the correct info is:
There is currently no way in C4 (or SX3) to simply bounce audio of all tracks you use, unless you only ever use plain audio tracks.
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| Phil Pendlebury wrote: |
Mate you didn't read my post at all? In the scenario I described; 4 audio vocals, 10 VSTi MIDI, VSTi drums etc. Of course I am aware of bounce selection LOL. I just don't see the point in you posting saying you do this and do that when you are talking about a specific case (bouncing only audio files)... |
huh?? of course i read your post, which listed a bit more than 4 audio vocals, and i was clearly saying that the procedure would be split in half, with the audio
half being bounced using the bounce selection function and the midi parts using your tool. both me and stuart posted exactly this and noone was talking
about the bounce feature working for BFD or VSTIs, so dont behave like we did.
| Phil Pendlebury wrote: |
Sorry but you posting up and saying I use Bounce Slection is like me saying "I use a bus to get to my work up the street so I don't need that leer jet you use to get to work 2000 miles across the sea." It's a complete other scenario and obviously this tool was designed for a specific purpose. |
well, you posted this
| Phil Pendlebury wrote: |
In my case and in the case of many, many professionals I know and work with, bouncing audio will not do the job and it normally takes a lot more than 2 - 3 clicks LOL unless maybe you are talking about 10 second audio clips. |
and that sounded indeed like you dont know the bounce selection function and that you can bounce any audio file chaos, be it 10 seconds or 2 hours long, with
just one marquee selection, which takes indeed just 2-3 clicks, so thats what i pointed out. it was an attempt to help cause it seemed you didnt know that
this works so nicely.
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However since you guys seem determined to prove that this little tool is useless LOL (funny how people do that)...
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thats BS, noone said that, on the contrary, we both stressed how cool your tool is and how its the perfect thing for the stuff where the bounce function doesnt work.
you know, i dont feel like argueing semantics, and i thank you for your tool. but i wont be kissing your ass for it either |
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| Derek 667 wrote: | | ...i thank you for your tool. but i wont be kissing your ass for it either |
If you're not willing to pucker up and smooch, then maybe you should show your appreciation by sending him some cash or by making a donation to his favorite charity! 
Just kidding. I haven't tried his tool yet, but may do so in the next few weeks.
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