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mauko
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:22 am    Post subject: VG2 Universal Binary Reply with quote

So I bought it, it's nice...
The same week I bought my new iMac (Intel)
Too bad, the AU Plugin doesn't get recognized anymore, I need an update....
With Logic & Garageband...
Anyone with the same problem? Steinberg still doesn't know, if or when this is going to happen...

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: VG2 Universal Binary Reply with quote

doesnt Garageband work with VG2 on a non intel mac?
didnt you say that was the case?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only Intel Mac's don't work...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone from Steinberg here?...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me get this clear.

VG2 does not work on Intel Macs?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:08 pm    Post subject: Works, dosn't work.... Reply with quote

Yes and no...
-The only one working from my point of view is the "standalone" Version (Midi, Keyboard, record real Audio onto the tracks)
-Rewire I can't configure together with Logic 7.2, I say: It's not working on an Intel yet...
VST has been recognized by "Live", running with "Rosetta"(even though you will miss some audio "features"), if you use the new Intel-"Live"-Version, the VST and AU-Plugins don't get recognized anymore...
AU Plugins definetly don't work on Intel Macs until each one of them gets a "face lift" with Universal Binary...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:39 pm    Post subject: Same problem... Reply with quote

I purchased VG2 cause Steinberg said everywhere:

• Cross-platform (Mac/PC); supports all standard plug-in formats (VST, DXi, AU, Rewire) and standalone mode....

• Supporting for all standard plug-in formats such as VST, DXi, AU and Rewire, Virtual Guitarist 2 now readily integrates into every professional host application....

a.s.o.

But it's not true. VG2 DOESN'T WORKS on Intel Macs. Not in the way it should properly works.

Is it possible to have an Universal update of the VG2 plugins please?

Thank you...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a workaround for Logic Users with an Intel Mac out there...
Use Logic 7.1 with Rosetta (even though Apple says, that this is not gonna work)
You certainly don't have full power, but all the plugins are there and working...

So instead of using 20 Tracks, you should be able to have 6 smoothly running
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice suggest... this is the same example:
I buy a Honda 1000 'cause I like to race; then I buy a very good part for it, but suddenly I discover that I can't use it on my motorcycle.
Oh nice... luckely the spare part fits perfectly my old bicycle! So, I can use the bicycle!! Wink

btw: it doesn't works neither using Logic Pro with Rosetta. I'm talking about Logic Pro 7.2.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah wright... Tested only on Logic Express...
Well it's only to shorten the waiting....
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: VG2 Universal Binary Reply with quote

IMO it is required for Steinberg to take action e.g. announcing their strategy for the transition of products like VG2, HS2, VB1, XPhraze etc. to Universal Binaries. Intel Macs are available for developers since a long time now and most companies already offer Universal Binaries or have a schedule published to the users.

Please Steinberg, we are really waiting for using your plugins on the new Macs.
Thanks a lot!

kind regards
Tom
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sound of silence...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

..........
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

giggi wrote:
Nice suggest... this is the same example:
I buy a Honda 1000 'cause I like to race; then I buy a very good part for it, but suddenly I discover that I can't use it on my motorcycle.
Oh nice... luckely the spare part fits perfectly my old bicycle! So, I can use the bicycle!! Wink

btw: it doesn't works neither using Logic Pro with Rosetta. I'm talking about Logic Pro 7.2.


No, this is a similar example...

I bought this new car the other day. It runs on gnat's urine, which is reported to offer better performance. The car was the same price as a normal gas powered car.

The car salesman told me that gnat's urine would be widely available soon.

R.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waiting waiting and waiting?????????? Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

virtual guitarist 2 is the only software that i don't have in my intel mac...!!!!!

...why steinberg take so so long to do so!!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Re: VG2 Universal Binary Reply with quote

I'm right there with you bro. I bought VG 2 a few weeks ago and was stunned to find out that it dosn't work on my intel mac. I called tech support and they had no information. This things been out since january right?

Needles to say, I am *quiz* that I now have a killer app that is useless until they release a patch. Somthing tells me that this won't happen though. They will release version 3 and that will be intel. What bugs me is that they won't even tell us. On the one hand one could argue that they don't want to pre anounce new versions. On the other, I think it's pretty messed up that we the consumers of steinberg products get treated like *witch* after we have laid down our cold hard cash. I think we have the right to know wether our purchases are worthless and wether we will have to buy a whole nother version to get it working on our machines.


mauko wrote:
So I bought it, it's nice...
The same week I bought my new iMac (Intel)
Too bad, the AU Plugin doesn't get recognized anymore, I need an update....
With Logic & Garageband...
Anyone with the same problem? Steinberg still doesn't know, if or when this is going to happen...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here (just to give it a better impact...). Not that they just bring us into nightmare with that dongle / authorization system but they also don't give us any infos. I wonder if I have to pay for an update before I even have used VG2 once. Than I would be really p***ed.

Regards and hopefully there comes up any reaction!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long time since I started this...
Just let you all know, that Steinberg took my VG2 and key back for good, since I was bothering them with my complaints... and I will probably have a life with musiclabs guitars (if the electric transition is going to happen in RealGuitar)
See'ya
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Intel Update Reply with quote

After a lot of hassling - I got back info from Steinberg that they are NOT upgrading Virtual Guitarist 2 to Intel. It's going to be Virtual Guitarist 3 which gets the nod. So basically - I've written them a nasty email saying that I want a refund like the guy who posted above me. I'm frankly disgusted that a HUGE company like Steinberg can't upgrade a product for loyal customers (I've bought Virtual Guitarist, Virtual Guitarist EE, The Grand, Halion Strings) when small companies like Ohm Force, etc have updated all their products. I'm looking at Real Guitar 2 which apparently is better and intel compatible or at least the intel update is imminent. I'm not sure how essential VG is to everyone else working - but since it doesn't work ANYWAY and isn't going to get an update, the only way we could potentially force Steinberg into doing anything about this is if everyone stands together and votes with their feet. I emailed them today saying I want to return VG, VGEE and VG2 for a refund since I feel I have been badly treated as a customer. The stupid thing is - it's in Steinberg's INTEREST to keep customers happy as even the desktop macs are intel chips now.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Intel Update Reply with quote

mich1s wrote:
I'm looking at Real Guitar 2 which apparently is better and intel compatible or at least the intel update is imminent.

Sorry to chime in on this one in my 1st post but I felt the need to mention that Realguitar is a somewhat weird issue. Before you go and buy it keep in mind that Realguitar 2L is in fact UB and it does install as VST BUT (and this is a fat one for me) it does NOT work with Cubase 4 - at least when I last checked on their website. Hell knows what's happening at musiclab. Anyway when a user in the forum mentioned the incompatibility musiclab returned some BS answer. I for one wouldn't hold my breath and keep strumming my real guitar Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have cubase sl3 running with rosetta and VG2 is very playable and it doesn't give me any headache.I have an intel mac mini.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:02 pm    Post subject: to R2B Reply with quote

Hi R2B - thanks for your comments. I'm using Logic myself and have taken the plunge and gone for Real Guitar. It doesn't obviously have the versatility that VG2 has in terms of sounds and patterns but it's working under UB for me pretty well. No stability issues as of yet. I miss the electric stuff but I can do without that for now. I tried running VG2 in Logic under Rosetta and it just doesn't work well enough for me to able to practically use it in sessions. According to the Steinberg announcement that some of their updates are only scheduled for Q2/2007 - and we all know how release dates usually suffer by way of being delayed rather than coming in early, I can't imagine that VG2 will happen BEFORE this. So basically - it's pointless having this plugin for me for now and so I'm writing to Arbiter to arrange some kind of return.

Funktional - glad you managed to get it working in a useful capacity! Smile

Good luck to everyone out there.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

funktional wrote:
I have cubase sl3 running with rosetta and VG2 is very playable and it doesn't give me any headache.I have an intel mac mini.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey i know its an old topic, but does that mean Groove Agent will not run on an intel Mac?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will work under rosetta.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://knowledgebase.steinberg.net/94_1.html

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: When do we finally get an answer? Reply with quote

Uwe Huebner wrote:
http://knowledgebase.steinberg.net/94_1.html


Dear Uwe,

sorry, but I don´t understand what you would like to say with that link. There is not half of the Steinberg-labeled instruments listed and the document doesn´t seem to have been updated for a while.

This thread was started as "VG2 Universal Binary" and up to now, unfortunately there is still not the slightest bit of official answer to this problem (and nor can I see any information about Hypersonic 2 as Universal Binary).

It would really be nice if Steinberg could finally recognize that a lot of people (not only a handful) are waiting for informations (also on the Nuendo Forum bzw) - all users who have paid money to Steinberg for products which are still on sale, a very long time after Macs with Intel CPUs have been made available.

Please Uwe... is it really so hard to finally give a statement about the status of Universal Binaries for all Steinberg products? This is surely not demanding too much - or is it? We all know that obviously the fact that Wizoo has been acquired by Digi is part of the problem, but that´s now a long time ago as well so there should really exist a "plan B" at Steinberg... (ehm... "B" like for universal Binary Wink

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